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  • boxingfan76
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    #121
    Originally posted by switchsouthpaw
    That's why I respect Mosley for taking so many chances that other fighters would never dream of. He didn't have to fight Winky twice or even Vernon twice, where other fighters conveniently avoided both.

    It wasn't about the money he was making, it was about him wanting to prove to himself he was the best and yes he lost but he also earned respect in the process, or at least he did from me. I don't look at undefeated records the way a lot of other fans do, that just means to me in most instances you haven't been in with anyone who was able to test you. Boxing when it was at it's apex of popularity was about inspiring people...even when money was involved.
    totally agree 100%

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    • Lorily
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      #122
      Originally posted by switchsouthpaw
      There is some truth to your statements. But really examine the impact that HBO has had on boxing overall and I think you'll agree it's been negative.

      Golden Boy and Top Rank hold most of the HBO dates, freezing out other talented fighters and mid-level promoters. It limits the exposure and depth of boxing. HBO is concerned with attracting the "casual fan". They aren't concerned about us. They see us as a limited audience. They want to expand their subscription base.

      Guys like Mayweather in conjunction with HBO are engaged in a relationship that is detrimental to the sport's long-term health, same as when Oscar was active. Mayweather is a log-jam at welterweight because he calls all the shots and HBO gives him the dates to do it. Mayweather won't fight another tough welterweight unless it makes financial sense, which is okay but a millionaire is still a millionaire right? You will always hear him say "if it doesn't make business sense", then he won't do it. It's tough to relate to someone who thinks like that, at least it is for me, don't know about you guys. It's certainly not inspiring although I guess I can understand it to some degree.
      Yes, I agree. Any which way you look at it the greed of the sport seems to far outweigh what the fans (from the average fan to the hardcore fans) want to see. If I had a $1 for everytime I read "The fight between so and so is off due to disagreements about money" then I might be quite well off myself. To me, it makes quite a statement when a fighter changes his nickname to "money". Thats why it drives me a little nuts when people say Pac would have never walked away from so much money if he were clean. This doesn't make sense from FMJ aspect as he is ALL about the money and he walked away too so clearly you can't put it on one and not the other. Guys like Paulie M say on live TV that they "hate boxing" and only do it for the money (translation: f@ck the fans), but yet is all up in the news media talking trash about every boxer out there, and refusing to fight the likes of Kahn because he deserves more money than Kahn. Hey, I get the money aspect for the fighters so don't get me wrong... they are there to earn a living not to do it for free, and it's far from an easy living. My point is that it is so obviously less about what we (the people that make the money go round) want and more about seemingly outrageous amounts of money a fighter wants to fight with the least amount of risk, who, is controlled by the promoter or HBO/Showtime.

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      • Marciano90s
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        #123
        Originally posted by -Ash-
        That's right, if you don't have the legs then the power and speed means little to nothing against a boxer with legs.
        are u saying mosley does not have legs?did u ever see a mosley fight?

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        • switchsouthpaw
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          #124
          Originally posted by Lorily
          Yes, I agree. Any which way you look at it the greed of the sport seems to far outweigh what the fans (from the average fan to the hardcore fans) want to see. If I had a $1 for everytime I read "The fight between so and so is off due to disagreements about money" then I might be quite well off myself. To me, it makes quite a statement when a fighter changes his nickname to "money". Thats why it drives me a little nuts when people say Pac would have never walked away from so much money if he were clean. This doesn't make sense from FMJ aspect as he is ALL about the money and he walked away too so clearly you can't put it on one and not the other. Guys like Paulie M say on live TV that they "hate boxing" and only do it for the money (translation: f@ck the fans), but yet is all up in the news media talking trash about every boxer out there, and refusing to fight the likes of Kahn because he deserves more money than Kahn. Hey, I get the money aspect for the fighters so don't get me wrong... they are there to earn a living not to do it for free, and it's far from an easy living. My point is that it is so obviously less about what we (the people that make the money go round) want and more about seemingly outrageous amounts of money a fighter wants to fight with the least amount of risk, who, is controlled by the promoter or HBO/Showtime.
          I agree with you and on a side note god damn Laila is hot! I remember John McCain once discussing the proposition of putting together a national boxing commission and instituting salary caps, trust me when I say HBO and promoters definitely don't want that even though they crow about wanting to enforce the integrity of the sport...oh and once again....god damn Laila.
          Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 02-06-2010, 03:32 PM.

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          • mazdaru
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            #125
            Originally posted by boxingfan76
            agreed delahoya gave mayweather all kinds of problems for at least the first 7 rnds, i see no reason why mosley wont do the same , or even win, mayweather has only faced gattis (rip) in the last decade, this is a major test. if he blows through shane then he beats pac easily also.
            floyd didnt have probs with DLH. floyd was cautiious b.c of the size differential and DLH's jab was effective for a few rounds before floyd took it away.

            i dont know what you people saw but floyd didnt have difficulty with DLH. most was ineffective aggression and missing punches from dlh. floyd just respected DLH's size alittle more. but notice...floyd starting standing right in front of DLH, backing DLH up, even walking into DHL and pushing him back

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            • grownfolk.us
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              #126
              Mosley funny for thinking, well sounding like he superior to Mayweather.

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              • Champ Is Here
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                #127
                Originally posted by mazdaru
                floyd didnt have probs with DLH. floyd was cautiious b.c of the size differential and DLH's jab was effective for a few rounds before floyd took it away.

                i dont know what you people saw but floyd didnt have difficulty with DLH. most was ineffective aggression and missing punches from dlh. floyd just respected DLH's size alittle more. but notice...floyd starting standing right in front of DLH, backing DLH up, even walking into DHL and pushing him back
                Floyd didn't want to embarrass someone he was going to be in business with

                If you watch the fight, Floyd coulda ended it early by going offensive cause DLH stood right there. But DLH defense was on point no doubt, but as the rounds went on those punches started connecting more

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                • switchsouthpaw
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Champ Is Here
                  Floyd didn't want to embarrass someone he was going to be in business with

                  If you watch the fight, Floyd coulda ended it early by going offensive cause DLH stood right there. But DLH defense was on point no doubt, but as the rounds went on those punches started connecting more
                  Mayweather won but it was boring. He won by doing very little little and having another guy in ODHL who after round six stopped doing anything at all, it wasn't a dominant win by any stretch, it should have been.

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                  • Mr Reality
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Alfa-Q
                    yea, that makes him very very old, if you stay that long you are past your prime.



                    nice timing, you waited until shane is past his prime.
                    Are you telling me that Quackuiao did not want to fight a the same Shane that is past his prime?

                    When would Quackuiao wan to fight Mosely, after he is 40.

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                    • mazdaru
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by switchsouthpaw
                      Mayweather won but it was boring. He won by doing very little little and having another guy in ODHL who after round six stopped doing anything at all, it wasn't a dominant win by any stretch, it should have been.
                      8-4 is dominate when we are talking punch stat

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