Can you become a better boxer after 25?

[rao007]

[QUOTE=cixthree;7436173]

Can I ask something? How many fights have you seen of Pacquiao? Honestly.[/QUOTE I believe I have 22 fights of his, I haven't been able to find them all yet.
I'll usually order dvd packages when I see the fights I don't have on the menu. Why do you ask?

If you question my boxing IQ or how long I've been a boxing fan, I go all the way back to ABC wide world of sports.

Well, your claim of Alex giving Pacquiao the good sauce seems rather rash if you actually look at other facts---for one, Diaz hardly touched Pacquiao, was considered by many here on NSB as a paper champ; Hatton, who was constantly hurt by guys through out his career and was never seen as a good boxer to begin with, and there is Cotto---who some considered irreparably damaged after the Margarito fight....I mean, how come people forgot this when the steroid allegations came up?

[hugh grant]

Mayweather doesn't think so.....Do you agree?


Mayweather: "Manny wouldn't take a $25 million drug test. I'm trying to clean up sports, make a change... You don't start off your career as average, and then after your turn 25, become extraordinary... All we want is for Pacman to take a $25 million dollar drug test, and we got a fight"

If you are trained by your grand ma for the first 25 years of your career, who dont know nothing about boxing. And then suddenly trained by roach of course you can get better at any age.

[Check]

Mayweather knows the game in and out but I gotta question this statement. Your skills after the age of 25 may not increase but your ring iq does, which in return makes you a better boxer. Was he on drugs when he said this because most great fighters accomplishments come AFTER the age of 25.

[bojangles1987]

The massive flaw in that statement is that Pacquiao was never ordinary or an average fighter. He was just unrefined, major, major difference. Pacquiao was always an extraordinary talent with an awkward style, and once he was refined, well, we see what he is now.

[SplitSecond]

obviously you can, wat a dumbass question

[cixthree]

[QUOTE=rao007;7436231]

Well, your claim of Alex giving Pacquiao the good sauce seems rather rash if you actually look at other facts---for one, Diaz hardly touched Pacquiao, was considered by many here on NSB as a paper champ; Hatton, who was constantly hurt by guys through out his career and was never seen as a good boxer to begin with, and there is Cotto---who some considered irreparably damaged after the Margarito fight....I mean, how come people forgot this when the steroid allegations came up?

very true, but I did not say Pac was juicing. But I think most will not fully understand what Floyd means.
Its not that Pac has gotten better as far as skill, iI
Think he's pointing to all the physical increases.
At 16 both Floyd and Pac were 106, Pac went pro and Floyd in the Ams. At lower weights both were fast, strong and learning. As they moved up they started facing bigger men, they became bigger in size.

Its only natural to slow down as you age and put on weight (any type of weight). Pac is 30 I believe now and he's faster now. I'd excuse him just being stronger but he's faster.
So yes you become better as you age (better skills) but you don't get that much faster.

And the endurance? I'll give him that, Pac has always had wind. But never like this.

I won't say Pac is juicing anymore, I have before but I won't again. But we are in a very bad era, PEDs. And I can help but see the changes in this man, 2 years ago till now.

If you say its Alex then I'd say "name another Alex success storty"
If you say its thw training "Freddy has trained him for years, what changed"

Its too all of a sudden not to seem fishy to a long time fan of this sport. And floyd was born into this sport, I'm sure he's seen it all. Hell he knows Pac better than any of us I'd say.
Maybe Floyd Sr was wrong for implying Pac was juicing. Maybe God did choose Manny these last 2 years. Or, maybe Sr was on to something.

Team Pac have raised way to many red flags, the behavior is very suspect to say the least.
I can't just turn a blind eye to what I'm seeing, I can't just take Mannys word when his teams actions are so suspect.

Manny has gotten better yes, I believe he has. Bit if he's doing this without the juice, imagine him on it.

[cixthree]

[QUOTE=rao007;7436231]

Well, your claim of Alex giving Pacquiao the good sauce seems rather rash if you actually look at other facts---for one, Diaz hardly touched Pacquiao, was considered by many here on NSB as a paper champ; Hatton, who was constantly hurt by guys through out his career and was never seen as a good boxer to begin with, and there is Cotto---who some considered irreparably damaged after the Margarito fight....I mean, how come people forgot this when the steroid allegations came up?

and how does he get fighter of the year and decade if his opposition is that weak according to you?

[BritishBoxing92]

Mayweather doesn't think so.....Do you agree?


Mayweather: "Manny wouldn't take a $25 million drug test. I'm trying to clean up sports, make a change... You don't start off your career as average, and then after your turn 25, become extraordinary... All we want is for Pacman to take a $25 million dollar drug test, and we got a fight"

depends on when you started really...if u started at 22 or 23 then maybe yes...or maybe not..

[cixthree]

[QUOTE=rao007;7436231]

Well, your claim of Alex giving Pacquiao the good sauce seems rather rash if you actually look at other facts---for one, Diaz hardly touched Pacquiao, was considered by many here on NSB as a paper champ; Hatton, who was constantly hurt by guys through out his career and was never seen as a good boxer to begin with, and there is Cotto---who some considered irreparably damaged after the Margarito fight....I mean, how come people forgot this when the steroid allegations came up?

and how does he get fighter of the year and decade if his opposition is that weak according to you?

[Tobi.G]

Of course you can get better after 25! A lot of Boxer turn pro when they already are over 25!