Can you become a better boxer after 25?

[KILLA RIGHT]

Yeah but if u deny a test for 25 mill it makes u think

[BrushMyCage]

[$Bullsfam$]

i dont think you can skills wise.

Why not? A new trainer means everything. Kelly Pavlik is 27 and is still trained by people from youngstown. People think if he got a world class trainer he could be ten times better skill wise.

Not to mention their are different types of training too. A world class boxing trainer would bring average skills closer to a world class level. And if you got a strength and conditioning coach that focuses on training and adding power and muscle, it's definitely possible.

[rao007]

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If you have seen all of Pacs fights then you know damn well what I'm talking about (Jabs, uppercuts ect)
Pacs wind has damn near tripled in what seems like overnight. That does not happen and you know it.

You seem like a pretty smart guy and I'll assume it's just the loyalty to your fighter that keeps you defending him. But I'll also assume you see a different Pac recently but it wont be wise to just say that.

So how much do you know about Alex Ariza? Whats his background and what other boxers have benifitted from this special blend he brags about?
And tell me since you seem to know it all, Why does Pac not know what he's taking?
I mean, he just met Alex and he just puts what he gives him in his body, no questions? Shyt, he's known Freddy what, 7-8 years. Freddy has a hard time giving him shakes and vitamins...

I respect your loyalty but really, I question your honesty about what you see happening here.
I hope you dont take that as a disrespect, it's not

My loyalty goes only so far....I conclude based on facts.

When exactly has Pacquiao's wind tripled? The only people who have taken Pacquiao to deep waters are ring legends--Morales and Marquez due to their styles...I saw no conditioning problems for any other fights.


We know for a fact that Ariza worked with the late Diego Corrales...I hope Diego wasn't juicing.

[Roy Hobbs]

The massive flaw in that statement is that Pacquiao was never ordinary or an average fighter. He was just unrefined, major, major difference. Pacquiao was always an extraordinary talent with an awkward style, and once he was refined, well, we see what he is now.

could not have said it any better my self. The impressive thing about pacman is that he was already great fighter when he was at the lower weights with just his power, speed, heavy aggressiveness, & athleticism along with his lone left hand.

what you are seeing in the last couple years is the fruition of hard work & labor manifesting itself in a very seasoned, disciplined, highly confident champion along with a improved right hand & just overall upgrade of technical skill & defense.

[Sugar Ram]

mayweather in this issue is just full of crap...it is not nice for any fighter to disgrace another fighter like that...he just loves the limelight and when the light became dimmer on him and brighter to pacquiao he couldnt take it and had to ruin his reputation due to jealousy.

none of the Great fighters in the past have asked for additional tests or say that their opponent is juicing..They just fight!

[[ DUBBZZ ]]

Mayweather doesn't think so.....Do you agree?


Mayweather: "Manny wouldn't take a $25 million drug test. I'm trying to clean up sports, make a change... You don't start off your career as average, and then after your turn 25, become extraordinary... All we want is for Pacman to take a $25 million dollar drug test, and we got a fight"

Before steroid allegations:

Diaz is a bum
ODLH is old and weight drained
Hatton and Cotto are shot

After steroid allegations:

Pac is superhuman and is doing incredible things. He must be on steroids.

Which is it? Just another way for haters to discredit a man who has accomplished more than Floyd. Get over it.

[ModernTalking]

mayweather in this issue is just full of crap...it is not nice for any fighter to disgrace another fighter like that...he just loves the limelight and when the light became dimmer on him and brighter to pacquiao he couldnt take it and had to ruin his reputation due to jealousy.

None of the great fighters in the past have asked for additional tests or say that their opponent is juicing..they just fight!

amen..............