Pac and Roach wanted Shane at 143!!!!!!!! WTF?

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Was Leonard favored yes or no? Was Hagler coming off a win over a big prime strong MW yes or no? Did Leonard ever fight at MW before yes or no? Were people for Leonard safety yes or no?

So you telling is too much to ask from Floyd to fight Shane coming off a 16 month... But, is not too much to ask Shane to fight Floyd coming off a 16 month? Is that what you saying?

Naw man I heard about that ****. Leonard KNEW what he was doing. He wasnt high off coke when he thought about it. Thats not daring to be great.

Shane Mosley isnt a tune up.

Flloyd wanted a tune up bout after 2 years. Shane has boxed 44 rounds. Floyd 12 rounds. He had to carry Marquez to do it. He couldve stopped him anytime in that fight.

Now if you think Shane should take a tune up. Please feel free to mention it. Me? I dont give a ****. He couldve fought Clottey or Williams Shane chose not to.

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lol stop it with that one... andThe difference between that and the sturm situation is manny could easily fight at 147 and be comfortable, he weighed in at 148 on fight night against cotto.

All I hear is that Oscar weight more than 160 when he fought Floyd... So Oscar was not comfortable at MW? But, Pac weighing in at 148 makes him comfortable at WW? Explain how?

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Leonard WAITED until Hagler looked vunerable. That is fact. Leonard KNEW he would beat him.

Thats not daring to be great. Thats cherry picking. He shouldve fought Hagler a long time agao rather then calling a press confrence to say he will DUCK him.

Like I said Go tell Pac to retire for 3 years doing coke and then tell him to roll out of bed and fight Martinez at 154 in his first fight back. He'll look at you and laugh.

so you're saying that Leonard cherrypicked Hagler? the same way PBF cherrypicked JMM? oh boy...that might be thread worthy

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Naw man I heard about that ****. Leonard KNEW what he was doing. He wasnt high off coke when he thought about it. Thats not daring to be great.

Shane Mosley isnt a tune up.

Flloyd wanted a tune up bout after 2 years. Shane has boxed 44 rounds. Floyd 12 rounds. He had to carry Marquez to do it. He couldve stopped him anytime in that fight.

Now if you think Shane should take a tune up. Please feel free to mention it. Me? I dont give a ****. He couldve fought Clottey or Williams Shane chose not to.

You got your info totally wrong with Leonard situation... To more research on it...

When they fight on May 1st... Who is the fighter who will be coming off from a 16 month layoff?

Like I said Floyd fans are full ****... Every single one of ya'll... You guys really have this double standards when it comes to Floyd... you guys give him the benefit on every single thing.. You guys think he can do no wrong... and, is disgusting how you can sit here and type that Floyd was coming off from a 16 month layoff and it was too much to ask for him to fight Shane... But, Shane coming off a 16 monts is not too much to ask him to fight Floyd...

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so you're saying that Leonard cherrypicked Hagler? the same way PBF cherrypicked JMM? oh boy...that might be thread worthy

That is basically what he is saying Mak...

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so you're saying that Leonard cherrypicked Hagler? the same way PBF cherrypicked JMM? oh boy...that might be thread worthy

Leonard waited until he thought Hagler was vunerable.

There was no tune up bouts availible for Floyd on July 19th.

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im talking about pac, not mayweather, not delahoya. so answer my question and dont bring up other fighters

I answered he did the same thing other fighters did... But, I guess it is OK for other fighters to do it... but, not Pac?

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Bull**** stop watching legendary nights... Nobody was giving Leonard much of a chance.... Hagler was suppose to kill Leonard that night... A lot of people felt Hagler won... And, even Leonard it was tightly competitive fight... But, he dared to be great cuz he took on a challenge. And that is how it was looked at... And, till this day it looked like that... And, to make it worse Leonard was a coke he should not of been competitive... But, again he dared to be great... And, I guarantee you this if Pac comes back from a long layoff and takes a challenge from on old who looks vulnerable from 2 weight-classes below him... I will **** on Pac. Cuz on the real I am more of a boxing fan then any particular fighter...

dude, i thought Hagler was gonna murk Leonard...i remember being a kid thinking how sweet it would be for Marvin to retire Leonard

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You got your info totally wrong with Leonard situation... To more research on it...

When they fight on May 1st... Who is the fighter who will be coming off from a 16 month layoff?

Like I said Floyd fans are full ****... Every single one of ya'll... You guys really have this double standards when it comes to Floyd... you guys give him the benefit on every single thing.. You guys think he can do no wrong... and, is disgusting how you can sit here and type that Floyd was coming off from a 16 month layoff and it was too much to ask for him to fight Shane... But, Shane coming off a 16 monts is not too much to ask him to fight Floyd...

If you dont want Shane to fight Floyd then say so. Me? I dont give a ****. He CHOSE not to fight Williams and Clottey his ass wasnt retired. He just wanted money fights and it back fired.

Shane CAN TAKE A TUNE UP.........

He DOESNT HAVE TO FIGHT FLOYD.

I hope Floyd beats the absolute piss out of him.

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Leonard waited until he thought Hagler was vunerable.

There was no tune up bouts availible for Floyd on July 19th.

whether Leonard thought he was vulnerable is irrelevant to the actual FACTS surrounding that fight...he was goin UP to a division where Marvin was king...AFTER 3 years in retirement

there is no denying the kind of balls that takes...for you to compare it to PBF-JMM is just downright ignorant and comical