Pac and Roach wanted Shane at 143!!!!!!!! WTF?

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Dude everybody thought bro... People was actually fearing for Leonard safety... Damn near everybody was Hagler was going to beat Leonard... A lot of people still think Hagler won... And, there have been times I scored that fight that I scored it for Hagler... But, that does not take away Leonard taking a risk...

Well at least that is what I thought... But, now I know better... It was not a risk... He cherry picked Hagler... It was on the same level of Floyd-JMM...

i still have Hagler winning...those end-of-the-round flurries swayed the judges...and it was bull****...i lost whatever respect i had for Leonard as the years rolled on and he didn't give Marvin a rematch....then the first draw with Tommy

[jrosales13]

Mayweather has had 1 fight since December 2007......you hypocrite...you give Floyd no credit at all, if you're going to argue that Mosley will be inactive for 16 months on May 1st than talk about how Floyd will be coming in with only 1 fight in 30 months......you are pathetic, you only see one side of the arguement when it comes to Floyd

Wait did Floyd just have a fight a few months ago that helped get rid off any rust he developed in his 21 month layoff? Yes or No?

[-Reflexes-]

i still have Hagler winning...those end-of-the-round flurries swayed the judges...and it was bull****...i lost whatever respect i had for Leonard as the years rolled on and he didn't give Marvin a rematch....then the first draw with Tommy

Why????????????

[Fighting Marine]

Diaz was undefeated LW with a title...

Oscar picked the weight and was a mismatch in Oscar favor going in...

Pacquaio fought Cotto at the same catchweight Chavez fought Whitaker for the lineal title...

But, lets not let facts get in the way...

All of a sudden Diaz is soo great??? Baldomir was the lineal champ too but why dosn't Floyd get the credit he deserves for that fight????

so you're telling me De La Hoya was not dehydrated??? answer the question and dont duck it....

was Whitaker coming off a savage plaster beating, and 2 more wars???? thats what i thought

JRO, you only see one side of the coin when it comes to pacquiao, fact

[-Reflexes-]

Wait did Floyd just have a fight a few months ago that helped get rid off any rust he developed in his 21 month layoff? Yes or No?

Was Shane not just in an 8 week intense training camp??

[-MAKAVELLI-]

And you say Floyd fans are bad???

Diaz was a ****ing BUM. Period. Yes he had a belt. It was a belt grab. But lets not get it twisted. Just like Baldi was a belt grab but he was not good.

Oscar was weight drained. That is a fact.

Pac fought Cotto at 145 Pound when the WW limit is 147. AFTER fighting Oscar at 147. That is bull****.

Oscar determined that weight...not PAC...and DLH just had enough money to throw at PAC to make the smaller guy take that risk

[jrosales13]

i still have Hagler winning...those end-of-the-round flurries swayed the judges...and it was bull****...i lost whatever respect i had for Leonard as the years rolled on and he didn't give Marvin a rematch....then the first draw with Tommy

And, that is basically how Leonard got the judges... Hagler won 2 and a half minutes of the round... And, Leonard won the last 30 seconds of every round...

He should of gave Hagler a rematch... But, there is a reason why Leonard didn't give Hagler a rematch... He knew what time it was...

[jrosales13]

Was Shane not just in an 8 week intense training camp??

Does training camp remove any rust that a fighter might have?

[-Reflexes-]

And, that is basically how Leonard got the judges... Hagler won 2 and a half minutes of the round... And, Leonard won the last 30 seconds of every round...

He should of gave Hagler a rematch... But, there is a reason why Leonard didn't give Hagler a rematch... He knew what time it was...

What was the reason please tell me.

[Fighting Marine]

Wait did Floyd just have a fight a few months ago that helped get rid off any rust he developed in his 21 month layoff? Yes or No?

no point in continuing this discussion because you're obviously one of those pac stans who give Floyd zero credit and always back Pacquiao no matter what.....enjoy loser