Comments Thread For: Mayweather vs. Mosley is an All-American Bout

[Rome-By-Ko]

Cotto pre-Marg was clearly a different fighter. He would have been competitive with Floyd, it should have happened when it mattered. Margarito should have happened, PWill should have happened....the point is if you're going to be active and fight in a division, then fight the best that the division has to offer.

i completely agree with you i still think money would have beat cotto but it should have happen along with alot of fight's at ww

[ATL_Boxer]

Have you ever thought about things from all aspects of the game?
Did it ever occure to you that fighters could have ducked Floyd too?
Most recently Manny Pacquiao? My thing is, no matter what Floyd
does he will be blamed and ridiculed. If people really followed Floyd's
career and not just made their own facts up then they would know
that he actually tried to make fights happen at the time they were
supposed to but didn't. Who fault is that, Floyd? Then you give
Cotto a pass for not calling Floyd out because he is humble but
then said Floyd ducked him because he didn't try to fight Cotto?
Floyd was the man on top and Cotto was the challenger. Since
when does the Champ try to make a fight with the challenger?
It's basically the other way around. Can't say Floyd ducked
Cotto and give Cotto a pass for not trying to fight Floyd because
that's not his style calling fighters out. Cotto earned my respect
but if the fight ever happened with Floyd, Cotto would of been
a the under dog and WE all know that no matter how much
WE would try to deny that.

Excuses are all you have. Why were you ragging on Pacquiao for not directly calling out Floyd immediately after the Cotto fight?? Pac is the man to beat not Money. So May should've been the one calling out Pac. You showed your favoritism. Mosley, Cotto, and Margarito ALL managed to fight each other yet Mayweather hasn't fought ANY of them. Sorry. That's a problem. Margarito called May out to his face and got left hanging. Cotto is probably the easiest fighter to make a fight with. When has a Cotto fight even reached negotiations then fell apart?? Never. He fights the best and keeps it moving. It's so funny how Mayweather fans say he didn't duck the 3 of them when he makes quotes like "Legacy don't pay bills." HOW CAN YOU RETIRE AS A WELTERWEIGHT WITHOUT FIGHTING ONE?? He should've never been allowed to retire with those 3 megafights on the table. Floyd ducked Cotto and Margarito. Period. We shall see if the Mosley fight actually happens. Who cares if Cotto was the underdog?? Doesn't mean he didn't deserve a shot. According to the ******** odds May was the underdog in the Pac fight. The fact that Mayweather was ranked as the Number 1 P4P fighting nobodies is the biggest sham in boxing. Now he's back at Number 2 because he beat up a lightweight. Smh.

[iloveboxing2]

I agree with you ...

..good assesment!

Cotto was/is just a pressure fighter who depended more on his
punch then his brains and technical abilities in the ring and that's
why fights against tougher opposition he squeaked by. Cotto
has been rocked and wobbled by fighters in almost all of his major
fights. Once you took Cotto's punch away he was clueless or
struggled to a win. Right or wrong? I think Cotto had more
confidence before Marg but he still was beatable with a holey
defense. Manny Pacquiao out boxed Cotto. Maybe a pre
Margarito, Cotto could of beat Pac but not too sure. Anyways,
Cotto earned respect from me for the fights he took on at 147
but to me he was always good but not great and I think the
majority on Boxingscene knows me from posting about Cotto.
Hey, I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt with Pac
eventhough I said in the beginning Pac would win but in
reality Cotto was a work in progress and reached his peak
when he fought Mosley.

[ATL_Boxer]

i completely agree with you i still think money would have beat cotto but it should have happen along with alot of fight's at ww

Exactly. Cotto vs. May, Margs vs. May, and Mosley vs. May were ALL MEGAFIGHTS. The 24/7's for those would've been epic. I think a prime Cotto would've been May's toughest fight. If he had taken those fights, not only would he have gotten the respect he craves, he would've made loads of money, and made Manny Pacquiao irrelevant.

[GRUSTLER]

Cotto pre-Marg was clearly a different fighter. He would have been competitive with Floyd, it should have happened when it mattered. Margarito should have happened, PWill should have happened....the point is if you're going to be active and fight in a division, then fight the best that the division has to offer.

OK, understandable and yes Floyd should have fought some of
the other guys but everyone should take into consideration that
Floyd was coming up before Cotto and right after Mosley. Cotto
didn't make sense and believe if he would have beaten Margarito
then fought and beat Oscar then Cotto would have been fighting
Floyd according to Roger before Cotto fought Margarito then were
talking about Floyd fighting him. Cotto ducked Paul Williams too.
Had his belt on that Paul vacated because he couldn't get a fight
with anybody at 147. Cotto fought for and won Williams title vacantly.
At some point every fighter ducked or didn't fight a fighter for
some reason or another. Fact of the matter is that Judah and
Baldomir was ranked higher at WW then anyone else and fighting
Baldomir and chasing Oscar to 154 instead of fighting Margarito
made more sense career, $ and status wise. Just like Mosley fighting
Oscar and not Floyd made more sense to his career and same with
Manny and his choices as of recent. Can't congratulate one fighter
and down play another for doing the same thing. Well I can't.

[switchsouthpaw]

It's true that Cotto was rocked on many occasions, the difference before the Margarito fight was that he always found a way to win and in convincing fashion, that type of will/spirit died with Margarito and once a fighter loses that instinct....game over. But he was a different animal pre-Marg, he had the mindset to overcome, apparently that is gone.

[iloveboxing2]

All those fight would have great if it happened...

but Pac would still rise to occassion and still beat most of those names excluding Margarito.

Exactly. Cotto vs. May, Margs vs. May, and Mosley vs. May were ALL MEGAFIGHTS. The 24/7's for those would've been epic. I think a prime Cotto would've been May's toughest fight. If he had taken those fights, not only would he have gotten the respect he craves, he would've made loads of money, and made Manny Pacquiao irrelevant.

[ATL_Boxer]

OK, understandable and yes Floyd should have fought some of
the other guys but everyone should take into consideration that
Floyd was coming up before Cotto and right after Mosley. Cotto
didn't make sense and believe if he would have beaten Margarito
then fought and beat Oscar then Cotto would have been fighting
Floyd according to Roger before Cotto fought Margarito then were
talking about Floyd fighting him. Cotto ducked Paul Williams too.
Had his belt on that Paul vacated because he couldn't get a fight
with anybody at 147. Cotto fought for and won Williams title vacantly.
At some point every fighter ducked or didn't fight a fighter for
some reason or another. Fact of the matter is that Judah and
Baldomir was ranked higher at WW then anyone else and fighting
Baldomir and chasing Oscar to 154 instead of fighting Margarito
made more sense career, $ and status wise. Just like Mosley fighting
Oscar and not Floyd made more sense to his career and same with
Manny and his choices as of recent. Can't congratulate one fighter
and down play another for doing the same thing. Well I can't.

You say Cotto ducked PWill, but Floyd didn't fight him either. Other than Margs no one fought PWill so how is he relevant. You still have yet to explain without excuses how 1 fighter, Floyd Mayweather, managed to not fight Margs, Cotto, and Mosley before he retired. At least 1 of those fights could've been made. Your timeline is wrong. De La Hoya had nothing to do with the Margarito fight not being made. De La Hoya ducked Margarito to after he saw what happened to Cotto. Then he tried to make the rematch with May and May decided to retire. Oscar wasn't going to fight Cotto or Margs because he knows he would've gotten that ass beat. The two of them were beasts at that time. What Roger says doesn't matter. The fights didn't happen and May's legacy will suffer as a result. Those 3 fights would've done more for his legacy than a victory over Pac.

[switchsouthpaw]

OK, understandable and yes Floyd should have fought some of
the other guys but everyone should take into consideration that
Floyd was coming up before Cotto and right after Mosley. Cotto
didn't make sense and believe if he would have beaten Margarito
then fought and beat Oscar then Cotto would have been fighting
Floyd according to Roger before Cotto fought Margarito then were
talking about Floyd fighting him. Cotto ducked Paul Williams too.
Had his belt on that Paul vacated because he couldn't get a fight
with anybody at 147. Cotto fought for and won Williams title vacantly.
At some point every fighter ducked or didn't fight a fighter for
some reason or another. Fact of the matter is that Judah and
Baldomir was ranked higher at WW then anyone else and fighting
Baldomir and chasing Oscar to 154 instead of fighting Margarito
made more sense career, $ and status wise. Just like Mosley fighting
Oscar and not Floyd made more sense to his career and same with
Manny and his choices as of recent. Can't congratulate one fighter
and down play another for doing the same thing. Well I can't.

C'mon with Judah and Baldy, you seem to be a smart guy, obviously you know how rankings are manipulated and cannot be used as a measuring stick especially by hardcore fans, we know what we see and who is who as they say.

Judah is and has always been a talented underachiever who was a front-runner but eventually would find a way to lose. Baldy well he's a great Disney movie waiting to happen and that is where it begins and ends. Mosley put in work in his career, Oscar put in work, PWill fought Margarito and Martinez, Cotto fought Margarito,Shane and Judah, in five years what elite fighter at the welterweight division has Floyd faced?

[ATL_Boxer]

but Pac would still rise to occassion and still beat most of those names excluding Margarito.

That may be true. But Mayweather could always say he fought them first. Mayweather looks so bad now because Pac is a smaller man and facing welter he should've already fought.