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Originally posted by ATL_Boxer View PostWho cares about Margarito's career and legacy now?! DID YOU KNOW THEN?! NO! No one did! Hindsight is 20/20 so save it. You said Floyd didn't fight Cotto because Cotto never called him out. MARGARITO CALLED FLOYD OUT TO HIS FACE AND NEVER GOT THE FIGHT! That's why Margarito is relevant to the discussion. This is why boxing is going downhill. Because someone has to even call you out to make a fight. Cotto has never called anyone out and has fought every top welter except PWill. And no one but Margarito even fought him. Cotto cares about his LEGACY so he takes on the best opposition he can find. Mayweather doesn't because, "Legacy don't pay bills." Cool, if you want to take easy, safe fights against weak opposition so you can make the most money and stay undefeated, whatever. But don't talk about how you're the greatest fight of all time when you haven't fought an opponent worth mentioning since you were a lightweight. Mayweather was the supposed "champ" but no one but scrubs got a shot at his crown. Names mean everything. Not belts. And at 147, Mayweather doesn't have them.
made the better decision. I agree that Boxing needs to
get back to the old days when the best fought the best
but my thing is that you can't knock one down and help
another one up. I don't agree with Floyd when he says
he is the best that every did it AND I do agree with you
that he should fight the top guys and Mosley is a good
if not the best first step.
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Originally posted by ATL_Boxer View PostSo Cotto is supposed to fight PWill immediately after the Margo loss?? Are you high?? He got his ass handed to him and his comeback fight is supposed to be against PWill?? GTFOH. PWill left the division before he gave it a chance. Margo was at 147 fighting bums for years before the spotlight came his way. PWill was impatient. Look at Mosley, a Hall of Famer begging for fights but he never bailed because he couldn't get one. But fine, call it a duck. Cotto ducked PWill. That's 1 fighter. Why didn't Mayweather fight Paul? So that means Mayweather ducked, Cotto, Margo, Mosley, and PWill. Wow. That makes 4 welters who Mayweather conveniently avoided by retiring.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostI agree with you about Judah and Baldomir but at that time
Brian Kenny was getting on Mayweather that he had to fight
Judah and Baldomir. They were both the men to beat at WW
to become the Lineal champion at 147. To me, them fights
were relevant. Ok, so Floyd didn't fight Mosley and or Cotto
but them guys weren't even in the loop at that time as big
potential fights. Mosley made his career choices and Cotto
was an up and comer. Cotto actually busted his cheery when
he fought Mosley by then Floyd was entertaining a rematch
with Oscar that he turned down.
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Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View PostThis marks the beginning and is a great first step in the right direction for Mayweather. Mosley will be competitive but in the end I think Floyd wins on youth and natural ability, having said that this must simply be a first step and it cannot end with Mosley. Mosley is a great challenge for anyone but Floyd must take further steps after this only taking on the elite fighters in and around 147-154, anything less than that level of competition and he will be right back to where he started as far as public opinion goes. In any event, great first step for Mayweather.
Eh em.....what happened to mayweather never accepting this fight? And being a coward? And ducking Mosley for 10 years?
C'mon switch give the man some credit....not a back handed compliment......this right here should tell you it was Pac and cohorts that destroyed fight negotiations not team Manyweather.....
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Originally posted by ATL_Boxer View PostExactly! He couldn't have fought 1?! Not even 1?! How you can even try to defend that is beyond me. Just call it what it is. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then IT MUST BE A DUCK! No pun intended.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostI agree with you about Judah and Baldomir but at that time
Brian Kenny was getting on Mayweather that he had to fight
Judah and Baldomir. They were both the men to beat at WW
to become the Lineal champion at 147. To me, them fights
were relevant. Ok, so Floyd didn't fight Mosley and or Cotto
but them guys weren't even in the loop at that time as big
potential fights. Mosley made his career choices and Cotto
was an up and comer. Cotto actually busted his cheery when
he fought Mosley by then Floyd was entertaining a rematch
with Oscar that he turned down.
Wait for the winner of Cotto vs. Mosley?? Nope. Couldn't have been that because he retired before the outcome of the fight was even decided. So... what's his excuse for not waiting for the winner since Oscar was out of the way?
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Originally posted by ATL_Boxer View PostExactly! He couldn't have fought 1?! Not even 1?! How you can even try to defend that is beyond me. Just call it what it is. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then IT MUST BE A DUCK! No pun intended.
the other, there is a fighter that ducked another for some reason
or the other.
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Jr. is good but he needs to get that Monkey off..
..his back by taking on the top WW and needs to stop from being selfish.
He's got the skills probably the best but doesn't have the heart to actually prove that he is the best. Cotto fought Marg,Mosley and Pac without asking too much.
Mosley is the step to redemption but until they actually meet inside the ring
He will always be questioned.
Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostEXACTLY so why are you ragging on Floyd? Mayweather Jr
was the man to beat NOT Cotto so why didn't Cotto call Floyd
out? You contradicted yourself. Ummmm, according to Boxing
history and documents Floyd did fight WW's and actually
became the Lineal WW Champion, so what are you talking
about? Hey, we all wanted to see Floyd against all of them
fighters but they didn't happen and I believe on this thread
alone I posted why but no one seems to be replying to those.
Specifically the Margarito fight that was supposed to happen.
Also, why do people keep mentioning Margarito? Look at his
career and legacy now? I actually think it was a smarter move
for Floyd to fight Baldomir and then Oscar than Margarito. How
can Floyd be known for ducking Cotto? when he wanted to
fight him and I don't care when it was. Like you said, Floyd
was the man and Cotto was the challenger, it was Cotto's job
to show interest like your example of how Floyd needed to call
Pac out.
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Originally posted by check hook View PostEh em.....what happened to mayweather never accepting this fight? And being a coward? And ducking Mosley for 10 years?
C'mon switch give the man some credit....not a back handed compliment......this right here should tell you it was Pac and cohorts that destroyed fight negotiations not team Manyweather.....
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