Does Floyd have a stylistic vulnerability to southpaws?

[Tsukiyomi]

YES corley landed some punches....yes judah was fast for 2 rounds

but in the end both of them were dominated clearly and NEVER at any point of the fight were they in control

sheeesh....Mayweather gets hit clean a few times out of 40 fights and you guys go ape

I never said they were not dominated. I am speaking purely on technical terms, the mechanics of their stance and style, and I am not talking about skill or winning or anything like that.

I am addressing the fact that the cleanest, hardest punches Mayweather has taken have been straight lefts and right hooks from the southpaw stance. THAT is my argument.

As a whole, Castillo gave far more problems to Floyd then the southpaws, but that does not change my point.

[Tsukiyomi]

Also, as Weebler pointed out, you are being extremely defensive about this.

[Doctor_Tenma]

First of all, Zab Judah gets underrated alot. He has all the tools but he isn't so strong mentally and tends to fold under pressure. Still what Judah did in the early rounds was great stuff and Pacquiao doesn't set up those kind of traps. Infact, Pacquiao rarely sets up his punches but that works to his advantage. You have to understand though, Mayweather didn't respect Mitchell/ Corley, Mayweather was in there to take them out. Against Judah, the shoulder roll wasn't as effective, but Mayweather adjusted and switched to the high guard...then he took over. As crazy as it sounds, the reason why I view Pacquiao as a serious threat is because I've never seen Mayweather outbox a south paw.

[Cash Cow]

I never said they were not dominated. I am speaking purely on technical terms, the mechanics of their stance and style, and I am not talking about skill or winning or anything like that.

I am addressing the fact that the cleanest, hardest punches Mayweather has taken have been straight lefts and right hooks from the southpaw stance. THAT is my argument.

As a whole, Castillo gave far more problems to Floyd then the southpaws, but that does not change my point.

they did not give Mayweather problems....

do me a favor...please rewatch the fight and let me know what rounds Corley and Judah landed CLEAN/Crisp punches on Floyd...

also...answer my Question...

WHO had more "STYLISTIC" problems.....Mayweather with Corley or Pac with Marquez?

Who got hit cleaner by their opponent throughout the fight?



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[Cash Cow]

First of all, Zab Judah gets underrated alot. He has all the tools but he isn't so strong mentally and tends to fold under pressure. Still what Judah did in the early rounds was great stuff and Pacquiao doesn't set up those kind of traps. Infact, Pacquiao rarely sets up his punches but that works to his advantage. You have to understand though, Mayweather didn't respect Mitchell/ Corley, Mayweather was in there to take them out. Against Judah, the shoulder roll wasn't as effective, but Mayweather adjusted and switched to the high guard...then he took over. As crazy as it sounds, the reason why I view Pacquiao as a serious threat is because I've never seen Mayweather outbox a south paw.

wait wait DS...

Mayweather didnt outbox Corley and Judah?



If Zab judah landed in single digits in 10 of the 12 rounds in the fight...how is that NOT getting outboxed?

[Tsukiyomi]

First of all, Zab Judah gets underrated alot. He has all the tools but he isn't so strong mentally and tends to fold under pressure. Still what Judah did in the early rounds was great stuff and Pacquiao doesn't set up those kind of traps. Infact, Pacquiao rarely sets up his punches but that works to his advantage. You have to understand though, Mayweather didn't respect Mitchell/ Corley, Mayweather was in there to take them out. Against Judah, the shoulder roll wasn't as effective, but Mayweather adjusted and switched to the high guard...then he took over. As crazy as it sounds, the reason why I view Pacquiao as a serious threat is because I've never seen Mayweather outbox a south paw.

I think the speed and pot-shotting of Judah was annoying to Floyd at times, but on technical terms, I think Judah was especially effective at brushing Floyd off with counter right hooks(when he used it). I agree with your assessment of that fight.

I also agree that Mayweather was disrespectful of Corley and Mitchell, but I just don't see those punches land from orthodox.

[Doctor_Tenma]

wait wait DS...

Mayweather didnt outbox Corley and Judah?



If Zab judah landed in single digits in 10 of the 12 rounds in the fight...how is that NOT getting outboxed?

No, not from the outside. He pretty much went in on Corley, Judah and Mitchell.

[Cash Cow]

I think the speed and pot-shotting of Judah was annoying to Floyd at times, but on technical terms, I think Judah was especially effective at brushing Floyd off with counter right hooks(when he used it). I agree with your assessment of that fight.

I also agree that Mayweather was disrespectful of Corley and Mitchell, but I just don't see those punches land from orthodox.

[Tsukiyomi]

they did not give Mayweather problems....

do me a favor...please rewatch the fight and let me know what rounds Corley and Judah landed CLEAN/Crisp punches on Floyd...

also...answer my Question...

WHO had more "STYLISTIC" problems.....Mayweather with Corley or Pac with Marquez?

Who got hit cleaner by their opponent throughout the fight?



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How about you rewatch the fight and tell yourself.

Also, Pac had more trouble with Marquez style. You trying to change the subject?

[Doctor_Tenma]

I think the Southpaw thing with Zab was the bigger problem or the combo of the 2 but Zab's speed is different than Pac's speed. I think Zab's speed is harder for someone like Floyd to deal with because he's going to pick his spots and then throw a lazer while Pac will be letting his hands go alot so that **** is easier to defend to me

In the bold, couldn't have said that better.