Does Floyd have a stylistic vulnerability to southpaws?

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    #31
    Originally posted by Tsukiyomi
    That isn't even an argument against my point. I am talking on technical terms and very specifically, and you are coming at me with scorecards and compubox.
    #'s dont lie....

    Judah was 89 of 485 (18%) ...if you call that a stylistic problem then you need to rewatch the fight...

    how can a guy from rounds 3-12 land less than 9 punches per round equate to imposing a problem on his opponent?

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      #32
      Originally posted by Easy Work Sr.
      your recollection is wrong....

      from rounds 3-12 Zab Judah landed in single digits.....

      single digits means 9 or less

      ....and Judah didnt gas...thats a myth....

      PLEASE rewatch the fight and you will see at the start of the 3rd round Mayweather started letting his hands go and from then on the fight wasnt even close

      as I said, I haven't watched the fight in over a year but in that video you posted Lederman had it even after 6.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Tsukiyomi
        Actually Corley hit him clean several times, and stunned him more than once. He got dominated in the end of course, but that isn't the point.
        lol@ you picking out 1 punch in the entire fight...in a fight where the losing fighter didnt win 1 round...lol

        I mean Mayweather dominated Corley....

        let me ask you this...

        Did Mayweather have more problems with Corley than Pac had with Marquez?

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          #34
          Originally posted by The Weebler II
          as I said, I haven't watched the fight in over a year but in that video you posted Lederman had it even after 6.
          Lederman?

          what were the judges score cards after 6?

          6-0 for Mayweather

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            #35
            Originally posted by Easy Work Sr.
            #'s dont lie....

            Judah was 89 of 485 (18%) ...if you call that a stylistic problem then you need to rewatch the fight...

            how can a guy from rounds 3-12 land less than 9 punches per round equate to imposing a problem on his opponent?
            You are really dense. Are you even able to speak on technical terms, or is it all numbers?

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              #36
              Originally posted by DLT
              what slow fighters have hit Floyd? He dont hardly ever get hit clean. Who has rocked him? He only was rocked by Chop and maybe like 1 kinda time by Zab. Thats 40 fights. If you want the triangle then look at Pac vs JMM and imagine if that was Floyd. The bottom line is that Floyd is so good that people arent use to seeing him get hit at all so when he does then everyone overreacts. The truth is that most people gave Floyd every round against Chop and he dropped him twice. The only round that was up for debate was when he got caught by the big punch. That punch wouldve KO or dropped pretty much every fighter in boxing and he took it and alot of people still think he won the round.

              Dont forget, that was also like a fluke event. Floyd swung, missed, and then swung right back with his other hand at the same exact time Chop was swinging and got beat to the punch. That shot knocks guys out all the time. In the Zab fight Floyd adjusted after the 4th and never came close to losing another round the whole fight but people act like he had mad trouble. I think Zab's style is actually harder for Floyd than Pac's is because Zab is more of a pure boxer and waits & throws darts or lazers
              Mayweather doesn't throw many punches as JMM so no comparison.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Tsukiyomi
                You are really dense. Are you even able to speak on technical terms, or is it all numbers?
                YES corley landed some punches....yes judah was fast for 2 rounds

                but in the end both of them were dominated clearly and NEVER at any point of the fight were they in control

                sheeesh....Mayweather gets hit clean a few times out of 40 fights and you guys go ape

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by AFighter4U
                  Mayweather doesn't throw many punches as JMM so no comparison.
                  Floyd is still 10x better than JMM in every catagory so Pac's punch output will drop, he will by way harder to hit than anyone he's fought when he does throw. Most of all though, Pac's still and mistakes will allow Floyd to let his hands go alot. He will give Floyd mad openings and Floyd has the best reflexes in the game. He'll eat that **** up all day when Pac gets sloppy, lunges, or drops his hands after his combos. Also, you saw JMM couldnt let his hands go as much as normal against Floyd and when he did, none of that **** was landing and he's a very accurate cat who is mad techniqal

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by AFighter4U
                    Mayweather doesn't throw many punches as JMM so no comparison.
                    but he is more accurate which is what matters

                    here is a little fact for you....every fighter that Mayweather has fought has thrown more punches than him in their fights.....BUT he has out landed all of them EXCEPT for Castillo in their 1st fight....

                    so if EVERY fighter throws more yet he still lands WAYYY more than they do what does it matter if his work rate isnt as high as his opponents

                    here is a FACT for you.....in the 2 fights vs Marquez, Manny Pacquiao threw over 100 more punches than Marquez BUT Marquez still OUTLANDED MANNY....

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Easy Work Sr.
                      YES corley landed some punches....yes judah was fast for 2 rounds

                      but in the end both of them were dominated clearly and NEVER at any point of the fight were they in control

                      sheeesh....Mayweather gets hit clean a few times out of 40 fights and you guys go ape
                      At the same time I think you're being over-defensive, it's ok to admit the fights were competitive, it doesn't have to mean Floyd was being dominated just that his opponent was good enough to cause problems. The Cotto/Pacquiao fight was competitive for a while too, but ultimately there was one winner in that one as well.

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