Does Floyd have a stylistic vulnerability to southpaws?

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  • Weebler I
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    #11
    Never saw the Corley fight, but against Judah he had a problem with Judah's handspeed. Floyd's use to being faster than most fighters, it wasn't the case against Judah and might not be against Mosley either.

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      #12
      Originally posted by DLT
      Come on now, look at those fights Pac had. They were all brawlers coming straight at him and some of the worst defensive fighters in the game. That **** was cake walk. Im not a guy to believe at all in the trianagle theory but this is the one case where I think it maybe true. I think Floyd could do what JMM did to Pac except Floyd is 10x better than JMM in every catagory, plus he's going ot have the height & length on Pac. This is a very bad matchup for Pac and thats why I still say they are mad insane for not making that fight. There one biggest hope was that Floyd will be rusty & inactive. Now you are going to let him fight JMM and Shane? Dude will be so ready and wont have any rust after that, e****ally if Pac really fights Margarito and then Floyd has another fight. Pac would have no chance. There best chance was in March
      i agree with the underlined, IF pac took the marg fight but he wont. its just leverage for the floyd fight, if pac fought anyone before floyd it should be berto after clottey. im going to try and find an article that had something to do with sr. before getting locked up said to not put jr in with another southpaw again because of the way he's been rocked by em.

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        #13
        Originally posted by DLT
        Come on now, look at those fights Pac had. They were all brawlers coming straight at him and some of the worst defensive fighters in the game. That **** was cake walk. Im not a guy to believe at all in the trianagle theory but this is the one case where I think it maybe true. I think Floyd could do what JMM did to Pac except Floyd is 10x better than JMM in every catagory, plus he's going ot have the height & length on Pac. This is a very bad matchup for Pac and thats why I still say they are mad insane for not making that fight. There one biggest hope was that Floyd will be rusty & inactive. Now you are going to let him fight JMM and Shane? Dude will be so ready and wont have any rust after that, e****ally if Pac really fights Margarito and then Floyd has another fight. Pac would have no chance. There best chance was in March
        I'm not saying Floyd's easy pickings for Pacquaio. I am saying Floyd has an apparent susceptibility to a right hook and a straight left from the southpaw stance, and Pacquaio throws those two punches with speed and KO power.

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          #14
          Originally posted by johnle43
          i think u and many others tend to forget that manny has some sick counters m8.
          i dont like to play triangle theories but pbf has been hit by some slow fighters and rocked by some not-so-skilled guys...manny wins pretty easy IMO.
          what slow fighters have hit Floyd? He dont hardly ever get hit clean. Who has rocked him? He only was rocked by Chop and maybe like 1 kinda time by Zab. Thats 40 fights. If you want the triangle then look at Pac vs JMM and imagine if that was Floyd. The bottom line is that Floyd is so good that people arent use to seeing him get hit at all so when he does then everyone overreacts. The truth is that most people gave Floyd every round against Chop and he dropped him twice. The only round that was up for debate was when he got caught by the big punch. That punch wouldve KO or dropped pretty much every fighter in boxing and he took it and alot of people still think he won the round.

          Dont forget, that was also like a fluke event. Floyd swung, missed, and then swung right back with his other hand at the same exact time Chop was swinging and got beat to the punch. That shot knocks guys out all the time. In the Zab fight Floyd adjusted after the 4th and never came close to losing another round the whole fight but people act like he had mad trouble. I think Zab's style is actually harder for Floyd than Pac's is because Zab is more of a pure boxer and waits & throws darts or lazers

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            #15
            Originally posted by johnle43
            lmfao, what part is the myth? the part where corley hurt him? or where he was knocked down by zab?

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              #16
              Originally posted by Tsukiyomi
              I'm not saying Floyd's easy pickings for Pacquaio. I am saying Floyd has an apparent susceptibility to a right hook and a straight left from the southpaw stance, and Pacquaio throws those two punches with speed and KO power.
              I actually think Floyd will easily take that hook away. Pac wont land that at all the whole fight I bet. He can always take something away. Pac's only shot is that straight left between the guard but he's going to have to get by Floyd's reach and he's never fought a fast guy. See thats the thing. You can debate who's faster and more people may even say that Pac is but Floyd has fought 3 fast Southpaws while Pac hasnt fought a fast guy his whole career. The fastest guys he's fought are like Cotto & JMM and we know they arent nothing compared to Floyd's speed. I think that will be a huge advantage for Floyd, e****ally after the Mosley fight. I think that will be a shock to Pac's system. You can spar with Khan or porter all you want but its not the same as being in the ring with a fast guy. Pac will be lunging and Floyd will step back real quick and counter him all day with ease until he starts coming forward. Pac just hasnt fought a fast guy or a guy with good D, ever

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                #17
                Originally posted by Tsukiyomi
                I'm not saying Floyd's easy pickings for Pacquaio. I am saying Floyd has an apparent susceptibility to a right hook and a straight left from the southpaw stance, and Pacquaio throws those two punches with speed and KO power.
                MAN you have ZERO facts to prove your point....

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The Weebler II
                  Never saw the Corley fight, but against Judah he had a problem with Judah's handspeed. Floyd's use to being faster than most fighters, it wasn't the case against Judah and might not be against Mosley either.
                  WEEBLER..you are better than this man

                  Zab landed in single digits from rounds 3-12...

                  how in the hell is that Mayweather having problems with his hand speed?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Tsukiyomi
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by johnle43
                      i agree with the underlined, IF pac took the marg fight but he wont. its just leverage for the floyd fight, if pac fought anyone before floyd it should be berto after clottey. im going to try and find an article that had something to do with sr. before getting locked up said to not put jr in with another southpaw again because of the way he's been rocked by em.
                      I know that but that was his 2nd pro fight and thats why he never fought them again to the Chop fight but Floyd is a master boxer and you know he was going to figure it out. Floyd just didnt want him to slip up while he was young and not ready. He can fight Southpaws now. They definitely have a better chance than a righty because I think Floyd has mastered his D against righties and that none of them can hit him clean in his prime. I also think Southpaw is by far the biggest advantage in the sport and no one talks about it enough but I think Floyd has this in the bag easily. In March I wouldve given Pac a big chance but he has none now

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