If Floyd Followed Pacquiao's Route To Greatness...

[Dirt]

If he was judged by Floyd's standards he would need to go up and fight Pavlik at 160, then enter the Super 6 tournament replacing Taylor. Then come back down in weight and fight 6'1 Paul Williams.

that's YOUR standards. besides, floyd has to catch up with pac in terms of division and lineal titles.

Well no, I already know Clottey is flat footed, stationary, and low punch output. He'll stand there and let Pac win a decision. Which is what everyone is hoping for actually. After all a knockout might be illogical considering his turtle shell defense.

right but people who said clottey beat cotto and that he's a tough sob are now saying clottey isn't worthy. maybe to discredit pac's choices or their anger at the pac-may fight not being made.

[M.I.C.]

touche. but you can say the same thing about floyd/ judah/baldmir. why fight judah when he already lost to baldomir then go and fight baldomir afterwards?

And fought Judah's conqueror he did, yet pac never faced Raheem now did he? And to be honest, had he fought Raheem and won, so many of our arguments against Pac would be dismissed. Pac's biggest problem with many of his detractors is he has not fought the American Black Boxing style. Raheem was a perfect opportunity to do so, yet he opted to face the loser Morales.

Floyd at least fought Baldy and Judah, two different styles of opponent all together. Pac didn't seem to want to have anything to do with a pure boxer.

[bojangles1987]

If he was judged by Floyd's standards he would need to go up and fight Pavlik at 160, then enter the Super 6 tournament replacing Taylor. Then come back down in weight and fight 6'1 Paul Williams.

What are these standards? Who thinks Floyd should move up to middleweight and fight Pavlik? We would settle for him fighting Mosley or Berto or Clottey, let alone the middleweight champ. If we were judging Floyd by the standard Pac set, we would be expecting Floyd to fight Sergio Martinez or Paul Williams at 154, and then Mikkel Kessler at 168.

[-The Glove-]

P4P fighters move up in weight, Marquez was P4P #2, Marquez wanted to fight the best, Floyd obliged, Pac ducked. What I saw in that fight was evidence that Floyd would be Marquez at any age and at any weight. What I saw with Floyd vs Oscar, Hatton, is that Floyd would beat them at any age any weight.

Marquez asked for 50-50, really? And the second fight was too close. Couldve gone either way. In the first fight the judge admitted he scored the bout wrong and Pac shouldve won.

How does beating an old, slow and over-his-weight Marquez show you that Mayweather wouldve beaten him at any age or weight. Although I agree, Mayweather would beat him regardless, getting that from their fight in Sept is nonsense.

[M.I.C.]

that's YOUR standards. besides, floyd has to catch up with pac in terms of division and lineal titles.



right but people who said clottey beat cotto and that he's a tough sob are now saying clottey isn't worthy. maybe to discredit pac's choices or their anger at the pac-may fight not being made.

I'm not saying Clottey is unworthy, but its not the right fight to make when you got Mayweather out there saying lets do this. Also, even though Clottey doesn't look like Pacquiao's normal foes (he's Black ya know) he still fights like a typical Pac opponent, just with a better cover.

[daggum]

That seemed to be his philosophy vs Morales, they fought what was it, 3 times? Even after Morales was embarassed by Raheem, And what exactly was the purpose of a rematch with Barrera?

actually he fought morales again cause the first fight was an exciting fight of the year candidate and the fans wanted to see it again. as a floyd fan you probably don't know what that means though.

[M.I.C.]

Marquez asked for 50-50, really? And the second fight was too close. Couldve gone either way. In the first fight the judge admitted he scored the bout wrong and Pac shouldve won.

How does beating an old, slow and over-his-weight Marquez show you that Mayweather wouldve beaten him at any age or weight. Although I agree, Mayweather would beat him regardless, getting that from their fight in Sept is nonsense.

You must not of really watched that fight, that version of Floyd is the toughest version of Floyd for any fighter to beat. He barely made 1 mistake in that fight. Marquez at his best would of had no chance against that version of Mayweather.

Now if Pac didn't want to give him 50-50 then make a counter proposal, dont just move on to an opponent with no negotiation power that you can bully, like Clottey.

[daggum]

P4P fighters move up in weight, Marquez was P4P #2, Marquez wanted to fight the best, Floyd obliged, Pac ducked. What I saw in that fight was evidence that Floyd would be Marquez at any age, and at any weight. What I saw with Floyd vs Oscar, Hatton, is that Floyd would beat them at any age any weight.

you don't know what p4p means lol. p4p means if they were the same size how good would they be. how does marquez moving up to welterweight make them the same size?

so if mayweather is a p4p fighter why doesn't he fight pavlik, froch, or dawson? and when they beat him i will say what i saw in that fight is evidence they would always beat him even though he would be fat and ineffective like marquez was vs floyd.

[M.I.C.]

actually he fought morales again cause the first fight was an exciting fight of the year candidate and the fans wanted to see it again. as a floyd fan you probably don't know what that means though.

Though as a fan I wanted to see the Morales rematch, there was always hope he'd fight Raheem as well, but that never happened. What do you know, a Morales trilogy instead which was truly unnecessary at that point just like his rematch with Barrera.

[jrosales13]

LOL this Floyd fans kills me... How dare the Floyd fans talk **** about Pac fans not knowing about the sport yet you have a bunch of idiotic Floyd fans who don't know **** about the sport either...