If Floyd Followed Pacquiao's Route To Greatness...

[bojangles1987]

I dont think your explanation is all that good, I simply feel its simply of a case of his trainer knowing a faded fighter when he see's one. Oscar, Hatton, and Cotto where all same style faded opponents that he knew where ready to be taken out. Hell the entire boxing world knew they were ready to be taken out. If Floyd were fighting those same opponents they would of been dismissed as cherrypicked. Ya know, no different than how you all are doing Cintron now.

Without a doubt, Cintron would be considered a great opponent for Pac, but a poor choice for Mayweather.

Cintron would be an average opponent for Pac, just like he would be for Mayweather. Cotto had just beaten one of the toughest fights in the welterweight division in Joshua Clottey. Hatton isn't that good, but it's not that Pac beat him it's how incredible Pac looked in doing it. Oscar was a much bigger man at that time and no one expected what happened to happen.

[OaktownGhost]

This is what you do when logically, you know you've been beaten

No this is what I do when logically I read a ****** thread like the one you posted. STFU because your argument is flawed and full of hater juice

[M.I.C.]

Cintron would be an average opponent for Pac, just like he would be for Mayweather. Cotto had just beaten one of the toughest fights in the welterweight division in Joshua Clottey. Hatton isn't that good, but it's not that Pac beat him it's how incredible Pac looked in doing it. Oscar was a much bigger man at that time and no one expected what happened to happen.

Floyd was a much smaller man than Oscar and everyone expected Floyd to win the fight.......easy. He's held to a higher standard which by default means the world see's him as the better fighter, so what are we arguing about? When Pac is held to that same standard then these debates will make more sense.

Obviously Pac still has a lower standard for simple fact that he has found people to support his decision to face Clottey instead of Mayweather. A lesser opponent that they will once again consider a great win for him. Cintron on the other hand, will just be an average win for Floyd.

[M.I.C.]

No this is what I do when logically I read a ****** thread like the one you posted. STFU because your argument is flawed and full of hater juice

No its full of double standard logic

[Whodini]

If Floyd moved up to 135 and fought David Diaz but avoided Campbell, Guzman, etc... he'd be called a ***** and a ducker.

If Floyd moved up in weight and fought a dehydrated, weight drained and never won a big fight De La Hoya, he would be criticized for handpicking a faded opponent.

If Floyd went to 140 and fought IBO Champion Ricky Hatton who had been previously knocked silly into a turnbuckle he'd be criticized as picking the weakest challenge at the weight. Avoiding Tim Bradley, Devon Alexander would not be taken to kindly by the masses.

If Floyd went to welterweight and forced a Post Margarito and post Clottey Miguel Cotto to drain to a 145 Catchweight he would be considered a Fraud and a fake welterweight champion.

If Floyd had 2 close fights with a Mexican warrior like Marquez he would not be let off the hook till he fought him a 3rd time and won clearly. Some would even say he's not undefeated cause he got a gift decision against a Mexican Warrior. like a Castillo perhaps


So simply put, if Floyd followed Pacquaio's route to greatness, he would be considered the biggest Fraud in Boxing. His haters would even come up with names for him like Fraud Gayweather or *****..

Another delusional thread!

[Dirt]

Floyd was a much smaller man than Oscar and everyone expected Floyd to win the fight.......easy. He's held to a higher standard which by default means the world see's him as the better fighter, so what are we arguing about? When Pac is held to that same standard then these debates will make more sense.

Obviously Pac still has a lower standard for simple fact that he has found people to support his decision to face Clottey instead of Mayweather. A lesser opponent that they will once again consider a great win for him. Cintron on the other hand, will just be an average win for Floyd.

you keep saying pac has low standards, but pac's resume and ATG status is STILL better than pbfs. so why are you still posting the same arguement over and over?

[Random1]

So in a sense, the Pac fans are barking up the wrong tree, if you want to compare Pacquiao's greatness then do it vs someone on his level. Floyd as everyone on this forum should agree, is held to a higher standard than Pac. So until Pac is held at the same standard dont insist he is better, more accomplished, or even more relevant to the sport.

Yeah I think you're on to something here... but with the last couple years Manny has shown that he's at least getting up near Floyd's level, although he's probably a touch behind yet - but not by much. I personally think it's fair to hold both men to the same standards now because they're both superstars and are certainly in the same league as boxers even though they're different types of fighters. Given how much hate is handed out to each man I think they're both held to pretty high standards - it's just that they're impossible standards so that people can keep their hate.

[M.I.C.]

Another delusional thread!

The truth hurt's doesn't it?

[M.I.C.]

you keep saying pac has low standards, but pac's resume and ATG status is STILL better than pbfs. so why are you still posting the same arguement over and over?

I dispelled this myth in the original thread, so why you bringing it back? His resume is not better than Floyd's and if Floyd traded resume's with Pac it would be considered mediocre, and possibly even horrible.

[OaktownGhost]

The truth hurt's doesn't it?

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And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there
I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel-Air
In West Philadelfia born and raised
On the playground where I spent most of my days
Chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool
And all shooting some b-ball outside of the school
When a couple of guys said 'we're up in no good'
Started making trouble in my neighbourhood
I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
And said 'you're moving with your aunt and uncle in Bel-Air'

I begged and pleaded with her the other day
But she packed my suitcase and sent me on my way
She gave me a kissin' and she gave me my ticket
I put my walkman on and said I might as well kick it
First class, yo this is bad,
Drinking orange juice out of a champagne glass
Is this what the people of Bel-Air livin' like,
Hmm this might be alright!

I whistled for a cab and when it came near the
Licensplate said 'Fresh' and had a dice in the mirror
If anything I could say that this cab was rare
But I thought now forget it, yo home to Bel-Air
I pulled up to a house about seven or eight
And I yelled to the cabby 'Yo, home smell you later'
Looked at my kingdom I was finally there
To settle my throne as the prince of Bel-Air