Why demand PED testing for the biggest fight in history?

[thatnickuh]

I'm not against stricter testing. Pac agreed to stricter testing. You have to draw the line somewhere. Pac's line was based on personal experience (1st Morales fight).

Bottom line, Pac agreed to stricter testing. Is this a true statement or not?

No, it's not necessarily true. Team Pacquiao has said a lot of different things throughout the entire period of negotiations. Initially they said that they would have no problem agreeing to the Olympic style testing only to waffle on that position several times. The botomline is that they didn't agree to any stricter testing, they walked away from the fight. That's a true statement.

[Kenny Blankenship]

The thread starter is wrong.

If you were looking for a guarantee that the fight would be even and fair then you would also demand the fight not take place in Nevada, one of the only states where Floyd's painkilling injections are legal.

The "fairness" door swings both ways.

...Try again...

[Maidana vs Rios]

I thought 24 days was just a cutoff date, wasn't it? That means Pac can be tested randomly, anytime from the start of training camp to 24 days before the fight. That gives about a one month window for a random blood test, plus unlimited urine testing (to detect common steroids, EPO, etc).

Pac never agreed to random testing, he said testing on three fixed dates. The first test date was at the start of the promo tour, the second was at 30 days before the fight and then was moved to 24 days before the fight and the last one was after the fight.

You sure? I could've sworn 24 days was a cutoff date....lemme check google

24 days was a window, not a fixed date.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4803490

Arum said Pacquiao agreed to ease his demands on the drug testing window but Mayweather wouldn't.

Arum said Pacquiao agreed to shorten the window for a blood test to 24 days before the fight.

To me, "window" means a period of time within which a random blood test can be taken. If 24 days is the cutoff date, then that allows random testing of Pac's (and May's) blood anytime during his first month of camp.

[Bushbaby]

Real simple,after witnessing Cotto,whom U were afraid to fight,get demolished by Pacman,it's only natural to find away to not appeared shook!!So make bogus demands to indirectly,directly get out of the fight,smart move!!

[thatnickuh]

Hell with me. All I know is that in 2005, he said the blood test before the Morales fight weakened him. If that's his experience, that's his experience.

Yes, let's just excuse an athlete ducking random testing because he offers some BS flemsy excuse. Good job.

[Maidana vs Rios]

No, it's not necessarily true. Team Pacquiao has said a lot of different things throughout the entire period of negotiations. Initially they said that they would have no problem agreeing to the Olympic style testing only to waffle on that position several times. The botomline is that they didn't agree to any stricter testing, they walked away from the fight. That's a true statement.

Obviously, by "stricter" I meant relative to every other fight that has been fought in the history of US Boxing. Try to answer the question again with that in mind.

[Maidana vs Rios]

Yes, let's just excuse an athlete ducking random testing because he offers some BS flemsy excuse. Good job.

Hey yo TS, i thought this wasn't a flame thread? What's this dude ^^^ doin in here?

[Havokk]

Yes, let's just excuse an athlete ducking random testing because he offers some BS flemsy excuse. Good job.

[General Zod]

I'm not against stricter testing. Pac agreed to stricter testing. You have to draw the line somewhere. Pac's line was based on personal experience (1st Morales fight).

Bottom line, Pac agreed to stricter testing. Is this a true statement or not?

If you watch the post fight interview after the Morales I fight Pac gives three reasons for losing that fight.
1: Morales's style
2: Not using the gloves he wanted
3: The blood from the cut above his eye blinding him

If you then watch the post fight interview after the second Morales fight he says he won due to wearing the gloves he wanted.He never mentions feeling weak due to the prior blood tests.

As I said before Pac never agreed to random testing.

Doesn't it bother anyone here that McCline, Morrison, Holyfield and Mosley were able to get pass the system. With Olympic Style testing some fight had to be first, why not the fight of the century?

[arraamis]

Hey yo TS, i thought this wasn't a flame thread? What's this dude ^^^ doin in here?

Every thread becomes a flame thread here.

Boxingscene needs more moderation to combat the constant trolling.