Why demand PED testing for the biggest fight in history?

[thatnickuh]

Obviously, by "stricter" I meant relative to every other fight that has been fought in the history of US Boxing. Try to answer the question again with that in mind.

I understood exactly what you meant and my point remains. They never agreed to stricter testing. I don't care what they have said publicly because they said a lot of contradictory things during that whole process. Like I said, they initially said that they would agree to Olympic style testing only to backtrack from that position several times. Who's to say that they wouldn't have backtracked again if Mayweather accepted that 24 day cut off deal? Why believe anything that they said? They never wanted the fight with Mayweather. That's my opinion.

Gargle Gargle Gargle

What's that? I can't understand what you're saying with Pacquiao's d*ck shoved down your throat.

[Maidana vs Rios]

If you watch the post fight interview after the Morales I fight Pac gives three reasons for losing that fight.
1: Morales's style
2: Not using the gloves he wanted
3: The blood from the cut above his eye blinding him

If you then watch the post fight interview after the second Morales fight he says he won due to wearing the gloves he wanted.He never mentions feeling weak due to the prior blood tests.

I guess you didn't see this video then.

As I said before Pac never agreed to random testing.

Link? Everything I'm reading says he agreed to random testing with a 24-day cutoff date.

Doesn't it bother anyone here that McCline, Morrison, Holyfield and Mosley were able to get pass the system. With Olympic Style testing some fight had to be first, why not the fight of the century?

You do know that tests, even urine tests, are constantly updated, don't you? Mosley wouldn't be able to get away with the cream and clear today, using urine testing alone.

Has any boxer agreed to the amount of testing Pac agreed to?
- Blood test at kickoff presscon (2 months before the fight?),
- Random blood testing for first month of camp (assuming a 2 month camp)
- Blood test after the fight
- Unlimited urine testing

Pac went above and beyond what was required.

[Maidana vs Rios]

What's that? I can't understand what you're saying with Pacquiao's d*ck shoved down your throat.

Grown folks is talkin' here, son. Go on outside and play for a minute while adults have a discussion.

[Havokk]

I understood exactly what you meant and my point remains. They never agreed to stricter testing. I don't care what they have said publicly because they said a lot of contradictory things during that whole process. Like I said, they initially said that they would agree to Olympic style testing only to backtrackm on that position several times. Who's to say that thyey wouldn't have backtracked again if Mayweather accepted that 24 day cut off deal? Why believe anything that they said? They never wanted the fight with Mayweather. That's my opinion.
What's that? I can't understand what you're saying with Pacquiao's d*ck shoved down your throat.

[thatnickuh]

Grown folks is talkin' here, son. Go on outside and play for a minute while adults have a discussion.

You're the one who abandoned the discussion to make a personal attack on me. Don't try to play the Adult role now. No coincidence that you decided to respond to that post instead of the one that was pertinent to the discussion. I see through you like glass.

[General Zod]

24 days was a window, not a fixed date.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4803490

Arum said Pacquiao agreed to ease his demands on the drug testing window but Mayweather wouldn't.

Arum said Pacquiao agreed to shorten the window for a blood test to 24 days before the fight.

To me, "window" means a period of time within which a random blood test can be taken. If 24 days is the cutoff date, then that allows random testing of Pac's (and May's) blood anytime during his first month of camp.

"Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) didn't want any blood testing but had agreed to take three blood tests: one during the week of the kickoff news conference, which would have taken place next week; one random test to be conducted no later than 30 days before the fight; and a final test in his dressing room after the fight. Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) would have been subject to the same testing procedures."

Does the above to you sound like random testing, during Pac's training camp?

Didn't the judge mediating the fight say that Arum had openly lied about things that took place in the negotiations as well? Didnt Arum also lie about needle phobias and superstitions? Isnt this the same Arum that paid Bobby Lee head of the IBF bribes to push his fighters up the ranking, so that they could get undeserved title shots. Isnt this the same Bob Arum who created Bob Arum promotions so he could promote fights in Apartheid South Africa?

Surely you can do better than an article quoting Arum?

[Maidana vs Rios]

You're the one who abandoned the discussion to make a personal attack on me. Don't try to play the Adult role now. No coincidence that you decided to respond to that post instead of the one that was pertinent to the discussion. I see through you like glass.

Kid, I didn't abandon ****. You started flamin, and I called you out on it. Deal with it boy. Check the posts in this thread.

[Maidana vs Rios]

"Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) didn't want any blood testing but had agreed to take three blood tests: one during the week of the kickoff news conference, which would have taken place next week; one random test to be conducted no later than 30 days before the fight; and a final test in his dressing room after the fight. Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) would have been subject to the same testing procedures."

Does the above to you sound like random testing, during Pac's training camp?

Didn't the judge mediating the fight say that Arum had openly lied about things that took place in the negotiations as well? Didnt Arum also lie about needle phobias and superstitions? Isnt this the same Arum that paid Bobby Lee head of the IBF bribes to push his fighters up the ranking, so that they could get undeserved title shots. Isnt this the same Bob Arum who created Bob Arum promotions so he could promote fights in Apartheid South Africa?

Surely you can do better than an article quoting Arum?

Is that not random?

Basically, from January 17, to February 17, they could do a random test. That's a one month window for random testing.

True about Arum. But everything I've read says 24 days is a cutoff date, which means there's a window for random testing. Where does it say that it's not a cutoff date?

And as bad as Arum is, don't tell me Schaefer is a saint. They're promoters. In other words professional liars.

[thatnickuh]

Kid, I didn't abandon ****. You started flamin, and I called you out on it. Deal with it boy. Check the posts in this thread.

Unintelligent people resort to personal attacks when they're being handled in a debate. That's exactly what you did, and what you're continuing to do. How about you go get somebody smarter to help you out? Girl.

[Maidana vs Rios]

Unintelligent people resort to personal attacks when they're being handled in a debate. That's exactly what you did, and what you're continuing to do. How about you go get somebody smarter to help you out? Girl.

My nuts. Get off them.