What DEFINES Greatness... Skills Or Resume?

[Nuurzhaelan]

Resume.. because it shows how skilled you are against top competition.

Resume often only proves who has a harder skull or weaker fists. Besides, doesn't almost everyone agree that 'styles make fights'?

Skills, man. Skills.

[Modobo3]

It will take BOTH!

[razor.thin]

it's what you did in the sport that people will remember you for, if leonard never fought duran,hagler or hearns or even benitez and pulled a "mayweather" would people remember him? they remember him for those big fights.

[GameGod]

Saying that greatness should be based on skills instead of achievements is akin to saying that the Nobel Prize should be based on who has the highest IQ, not who has made the greatest contribution.

[American Dream]

SKILLS PAY THE BILLS

you cant always judge off the resume...
just think..alot of fighters fought someone when they were out of prime..or weight drained..and that win is meaningless to me..or maybe it was a close fight..or a gift

Am I to believe that DLH really beat Sweet Pea or Chavez..eventhough the record says so...or am I to believe that Sweet Pea had some of the best skills around and actually beat DLH and Chavez for that matter...
and that DLH beat an old Chavez...

Am I to believe that the the guys who beat RJJ(Calzaghe/Green/Johnson/Tarver) deserve full credit..or will I base his (RJJ) greatness off of his skill in his prime

Am I to believe that Holmes/Berbick get full credit against beating Ali..and look at their record and say "they beat the (self proclaimed) greatest".and judge them off of that..

there are wholes in many fighters records..and way too many circumstances..
I Judge off their skill, but their records has to play a part .

[Nuurzhaelan]

Saying that greatness should be based on skills instead of achievements is akin to saying that the Nobel Prize should be based on who has the highest IQ, not who has made the greatest contribution.

Nice straw man. The thread asked which is more important, not which absolutely defines greatness. But, if you prefer, keep that mind closed and continue to believe what you want to believe.

[Southpaw16BF]

Resume!!!!!!!!!

[Dynamite Kid]

I respect your opinion. but would you still feel that way if a fighter has an impressive resume with huge names, future Hall of Famers, but won them at the end of thier career??

Example....

Felix Trinidad beat Hector Camacho
Larry Holmes beat Ali
Joe Calzaghe beat Roy Jones Jr.
Floyd Mayweather beat De La Hoya

All these guys got beat at the end of thier career. common sense dictates that skill wise they wouldn't have been easily beat in thier prime.

Commonsense dictates that you value those wins accordingly but it still stands that resume is the ONLY criteria for judging a fighter.


How you get the job done means jack, whether you get the job done against the best fighters is what matters.

[REMOVED SHARK 97]

Can't believe how many answers there have been to a question which is plagued with misconceptions & technicalities.

[Rabbit ♠]

Resume > Skills

I'll use my two favorit fighters as an example. You wouldn't say Roy Jones Jr. is greater than Roberto Duran would you?