What DEFINES Greatness... Skills Or Resume?

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  • Spray_resistant
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    #21
    To me it has everything to do with resume and nothing to do with skill at all.

    The thing is generally you need great skill to have accumulated enough wins over enough good and great opponents to have a great resume in the 1st place.

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    • JAB5239
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      #22
      Originally posted by arraamis
      I would say skills first .... because without the necessary skill-set, your resume won't be that great.

      If you have great skills then your resume can't help but reflect that reality. And the converse of that is if your skills aren't that good then your resume will suffer.

      Takes more than skills to make a great fighter. Marciano isn't known as a skillful fighter but is considered great. Howard Davis was very skillful, yet could never get over the hump.

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      • arraamis
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        #23
        Originally posted by JAB5239

        Takes more than skills to make a great fighter. Marciano isn't known as a skillful fighter but is considered great. Howard Davis was very skillful, yet could never get over the hump.
        OK, you have a good point ..... but, that just goes to show that it takes more than either skill or resume to make a fighter great. And I believe it is a combination of many things. Marciano was extremely strong, very determined and willing to go through hell to get the win and that carried him to many victories. He was just too tough for many fighters.

        Intelligence and skill helped SRL overcome many opponents.

        The OP should have included more options to reflect the many things needed to become a great fighter. Skill is necessary, but in some circumstances the lack of it can be overcome with sheer determination, coupled with physical strength.

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        • istmeno
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          #24
          Originally posted by JAB5239

          Takes more than skills to make a great fighter. Marciano isn't known as a skillful fighter but is considered great. Howard Davis was very skillful, yet could never get over the hump.
          howard davis epitomizes the argument aginst skills being the determining factor. he was one of the most technically gifted fighters i have seen, and did absolutely nothing with those gifts other than have a mediocre career, because he lacked the one factor that is not mentioned. heart.

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            #25
            Skills is hype, resume is proof.

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            • FLY TY
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              #26
              both

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              • talip bin osman
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                #27
                if u say skills, u are making the sport of boxing like diving or figure skating...

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                • Motofan
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                  #28
                  Resume. You can be the most skilled fighter in the world (see Roy Jones Jr.) but if you dont fight the best, then you cannot be considered more great then someone like Manny, who fights damn near everyone, but is less skilled.

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                  • Ch@mpBox@PR
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                    #29
                    Resume.

                    Simple comparison who is a better skilled figter Cotto or Judah?

                    Who is the best figter of the 2?


                    The answer is resume, you can have all the skills in the world and still amount to nothing

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                    • JAB5239
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by arraamis
                      OK, you have a good point ..... but, that just goes to show that it takes more than either skill or resume to make a fighter great. And I believe it is a combination of many things. Marciano was extremely strong, very determined and willing to go through hell to get the win and that carried him to many victories. He was just too tough for many fighters.

                      Intelligence and skill helped SRL overcome many opponents.

                      The OP should have included more options to reflect the many things needed to become a great fighter. Skill is necessary, but in some circumstances the lack of it can be overcome with sheer determination, coupled with physical strength.
                      I hear what you're saying, but when it comes to picking a more definitive factor for greatness my money is on resume. Better to be less skilled and win ugly than more skilled and lose pretty. Jmo.

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