Al Bernstein: "Floyd and his minions killed the Pacquiao fight."

[V.WEBB]

the ramblings of crackhead sr

You sound like a teenager. If Pac and his team were so worried about what Sr said, they would NOT have AGREED to the testing that was in the initial contract agreement. They would have NEVER engaged and they would have went forward with the lawsuit.

[V.WEBB]

he was slandered naker, dont try to put that in quotation marks
thats about the worse thing you can call an athlete, worse insult to destroy his integrity, his honesty, his life his legacy

its not about respect mainly, its about saving your livelihood, manny's name is what literally put food on the table 4 him, now r u trying to insinuate bull**** on manny's part because he somehow didnt go through with it

i dunno bout you but maybe you should educate yourself on reality and how it went down- may's dad insinuated pac is onto something and it snowballed, mainly because they kept repeating pac is on drugs
that's slandering, if they didnt know pac had passed is every drug test they should have haha funny, how r they gonna say pac is on drugs when they shouldve known hes passed every drug test provided by nevada
logically it means they went ahead of themselves

the fact that pac didnt want to go ahead with the lawsuit and instead wanted to go back to the negotiation can make one wonder- we have two choices 1) hes either full of **** 2) hes a nice guy with his head full of common sense where he saw where 1 man did wrong and being that he was in the right and the whole drug testing debacle was trivial and out of proporation, he decided to let it go and have the fight

we have to go with number 2 because every media source thats been covering the fiasco between may and pac has in their archives the slanderous and baseless claims as well as the elaborate smearing campaign brought on by the mays while on the other as well as them having pac's own words and statements dedicating his every single fight to the filipino people and all boxing fans,
slap some common sense into those facts and reason- put may's skills in perspective and what pac will be accoladded 4 when he wins and that's the beating the self-profess greatest fighter of all time, add that to the fact everyone in the arena during pac and cotto as well as every one online chanting" we want may" in all forms then there's ur answer

pac may have thought things wouldnt have gone this far.. any sensible man would.. just read al-bernstein's article.. even he thought things went out of proportion.. why? because of *****s and the floyd clan

After the novel that you just wrote, why did Manny and his team AGREE to do the additional testing?

[V.WEBB]

the truth

Prove that its the truth.

[Ryannn]

After the novel that you just wrote, why did Manny and his team AGREE to do the additional testing?

i think manny really wanted the fight. but when oscar and floyd started making comments about how "they doubt manny being clean" in the middle of the negotiations, it rubbed him the wrong way.

he was willing to take the far stricter test as long as there is some sort of compromise. it has little to do about the cut off date at all. its about not being somebody's *****.

both sides are to blame why this fight didn't happen.

manny being an egotistical primadonna and floyd being a punk ass *****.

[Hi-Dro]

old thread but i agree

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

i think manny really wanted the fight. but when oscar and floyd started making comments about how "they doubt manny being clean" in the middle of the negotiations, it rubbed him the wrong way.

he was willing to take the far stricter test as long as there is some sort of compromise. it has little to do about the cut off date at all. its about not being somebody's *****.

both sides are to blame why this fight didn't happen.

manny being an egotistical primadonna and floyd being a punk ass *****.

Nope sorry, won't go along with that BS. Manny had no record of testing positive, there was no precedence for it.

The fact that Floyd brought it up and tried to bully and manipulate the situation means all the blame is on him.

I understand people want to see the fight, and I do to but I wouldn't allow anyone to push me around or slander me.

Mayweather does this and 99% of the time the other side gives in because he's the bigger name. In this case, Manny made it clear he doesn't need Mayweather and he is 100% right.

[V.WEBB]

i think manny really wanted the fight. but when oscar and floyd started making comments about how "they doubt manny being clean" in the middle of the negotiations, it rubbed him the wrong way.

he was willing to take the far stricter test as long as there is some sort of compromise. it has little to do about the cut off date at all. its about not being somebody's *****.

both sides are to blame why this fight didn't happen.

manny being an egotistical primadonna and floyd being a punk ass *****.

The thing is, he tried to DICTATE WHEN he would take the RANDOM tests. And he made up a bunch of lies in the process. I mean, we just can't overlook that. Some call Floyd a punk for asking for additional tests, but fighters have done it before. Tyson asked Evander, does that make Mike a punk? Or what about Arthur Abraham..its in his contracts, is he a punk?

[flour]

After the novel that you just wrote, why did Manny and his team AGREE to do the additional testing?

why else but to appease mayweather in order for the mays to agree and therefore please the fans by giving them what they want as well as get some sweet mooolahsm they r willing to do that in the extend it doesnt conflict with pac's preparation for the fight
there were a couple of points in the contract to be agreed upon besides the drug testing itself and it attest to my reasoning

1.may wanted the 15k seating mgm arena in nevada while the owner of the dallas cowboys stadium entertained arum to use the 50k seating stadium,
the mays wouldnt agree to arum and stuck with the 15k therefore potentially turning down millions that can be made but pac agreed to it nonetheless

2. Pac's right to a higher share over floyd- every contract shared is not fixed, they r negotiated having that said, during the time of the negotiation pac and may just got off beating cotto and marquez with pac pulling in 1.2 million ppvs in contrast to mays 1 million ppvs, in principle, the higher earner deserves to have the higher share and pac initially sought his claim for a 60-40 in december of 2009 only to agree to may's 50-50 split.. again turning down millions if only to give the fans what they want..

( AS OF MARCH 2010, may now wants 60-40 and unlimited bloodtesting up until the fight.ill remind u during that timeline he has not fought anyone after marquez.. nothing has changed for him except.. his feared probably increased after pac owned clottey.. so what does that say about may? can u say chicken?)


now with the additional testing AFTER THE LAWSUIT ATTEMPT, there was not much agreeing to, if i recall, mayweather's camp got pretty quiet since pac threatened them from december to january, pac decided to meet may halfway with a 24 days cut off date but mayweather refused, it would only be after the final negotiation attempts by both parties with arbitrators( referrees) that mayweather cried to the media he offerred 14 days, i read some report team may texted team pac after the negotiation failed for 14 days and pac said "F HIM"

and you cant blame pac, he has tried to make it work but every mayweather move was inclining toward ducking him, may gave every reason for pac to walk away, may ducked him that way

[V.WEBB]

Nope sorry, won't go along with that BS. Manny had no record of testing positive, there was no precedence for it.

With that angle, if he has passed every test and been clean, he should be able to past a more stringent test then. That is my take on it. Add on to the fact that Roach said they can do whatever tests they want because Manny is clean.

The fact that Floyd brought it up and tried to bully and manipulate the situation means all the blame is on him.

Help me out here, where did he try to "bully" him? The testing was in the original copy of the contracts.

I understand people want to see the fight, and I do to but I wouldn't allow anyone to push me around or slander me.

Everyone took this stance AFTER Manny AGREED then backtracked. I mean, he was slandered before the negotiations.

Mayweather does this and 99% of the time the other side gives in because he's the bigger name. In this case, Manny made it clear he doesn't need Mayweather and he is 100% right.

Shane agreed and we have a fight.

[flour]

Green K.

I may not like Pac personally but he never failed to entertain ALL boxing fans despite all his imperfection.

It's what we paid for watching a fight, to be entertained in the ring and not on a marketing tool 24/7 with all the trash talking but still fails to deliver in the ring that majority of the casual fans feels disgusted they got conned.

cool beans, im getting red k by *****s left and right