Victor Conte talking steroids, Pacquiao and Boxing

[IMDAZED]

You make some errant assumptions. Referring to every conceivable ****tail of PEDs and its variants and why urine tests won't be able to detect them is pointless...other than to say USADA isn't able capable of find them which includes the blood tests.. That's they wan to keep athletes blood sample for 8 years..

By the way, I'm all for random, blood, urine testing.

I'd love to refute your first paragraph but your last statement tells me we are in agreement. Great. So what kind of tests would you have liked for the now-dead Mayweather-Pacquiao bout?

[imscythe]

I'd love to refute your first paragraph but your last statement tells me we are in agreement. Great. So what kind of tests would you have liked for the now-dead Mayweather-Pacquiao bout?

I'll butt in on this one.


If it was done by NSAC, then we the Pac fans don't have problem with that, this is where Floyd's fault at skipping the proper authority and doing his own rule.

"One fighter is not bigger than the sport", Dan Rafael

[Bee Keepz]

Thank you, brother. So you KNOW!

1. Do you believe Conte when he speaks of different "species?"

Species of what? performance enhancers?

2. Does urine testing detect any kind of blood doping other than EPO?

I already told you, you need blood draws to detect blood transfusions.

3. If EPO has a short life and thus is not detected by the urine test, how else can you possibly know a fighter may be using? Is there any other way? If yes, how?

Unless, you haven't read what I wrote, you can detect synthetic EPO through urine.

4. Is this answer the same as saying it detects the unaturally-made EPO?

Yes.

I know what?

[IMDAZED]

I'll butt in on this one.


If it was done by NSAC, then we the Pac fans don't have problem with that, this is where Floyd's fault at skipping the proper authority and doing his own rule.

"One fighter is not bigger than the sport", Dan Rafael

I agree that one fighter is not bigger than the sport - whether it's blood testing, catchweights or penalties for weight infractions. Nevertheless in negotiations these things happen. However, your point is that you'd be ok with random, blood and urine tests as long as it's done by the NSAC? Cool. A couple questions, if I may?

1. Are you in favor of these kind of random tests throughout training?

2. What was Team Pacquiao's main point of contention regarding the blood testing issue?

[MindBat]

It's amazing how many Pac fans insist on discounting the knowledge of Mr. Steroids, Victor Conte himself.

[IMDAZED]

I know what?

You're amazing. You keep regurgitating the same thing. It really is impressive. Maybe if I type slower? Ok...

We know that one particular synthetic method can be detected through urine. You yourself, admit that this method has a short shelf life. Because of that, it makes it almost impossible to detect by urine unless the user had just...used...right?

[Hijo de Dios]

I'll butt in on this one.


If it was done by NSAC, then we the Pac fans don't have problem with that, this is where Floyd's fault at skipping the proper authority and doing his own rule.

Belts are exchanged up to the weight limits. Right? Those are commission rules. So, for a championship fight, then Miguel Cotto can weigh up to 147. Right?

But Pac took Cotto's belt at 145...which I am fine with. Because they didn't break a commision rule. if they exchanged a belt at 148/149, that would be more lax than the commission rules.

As somebody who gets involved in contracts, i can tell you that contracts are written all the time . contracts which are more restrictive than the ordinance.

And that is what is happening with the drug testing. May & Pac could agree to a more restrictive clause -not a more lenient clause - than the commission rules. I have no problem with it. And neither should you.

I can give you countless examples of contracts like this.

[rao007]

I'd love to refute your first paragraph but your last statement tells me we are in agreement. Great. So what kind of tests would you have liked for the now-dead Mayweather-Pacquiao bout?

Please, critique my post--make sure to italicize your points..it's easier to read.

As for the tests---it should be reasonable--little bit of urine, blood testing involved that both guys can agree on.

[IMDAZED]

Please, critique my post--make sure to italicize your points..it's easier to read.

As for the tests---it should be reasonable--little bit of urine, blood testing involved that both guys can agree on.

What do you think is reasonable?

[rao007]

No, no, no. See...I'm not you. Not everyone who is questioning your hero is a crazed Mayweather fan. Damn, now what?

Oh,getting snippy with me now...arrrrr....of course you're not me..I'm too good looking. I'm here trying to be objective amongst the allegations thrown around.

I heard that Manny was investing in a pharmaceutical company in Philippines since 2005. True story. I'll try to get a link.