Victor Conte talking steroids, Pacquiao and Boxing

[Bee Keepz]

You didn't read my post. Regurgitating costs and explaining how urine tests are a cure-all just because it can detect EPO is not going to cut it. How believable do you think you sound contradicting what Victor Conte has to say? Get real. You keep touting the same two things as if that somehow shuts down his point. It doesn't.

1. How many "synthetic" blood doping methods are there?

2. Are urine tests capable of detecting all of them? Better yet, how many methods can urine tests detect?

3. Can a urine test detect masking agents for EPO?

4. Aside from the product itself, how does a urine test show signs of possible doping?

1. One EPO.

2. No, because to detect blood transfusion requires blood draws.

3. I'm not quite sure if there are masking agents for EPO and the half life is pretty short so I don't know why it would require one. I can think of diuretics as a possibility, but those are detectable in urinalysis see Chavez Jr.

4. Urine testing detects the target structure to determine the synthetic from naturally occurring EPO.

[rao007]

Which one is it?

All of the above brother.

[IMDAZED]

1. One EPO.

2. No, because to detect blood transfusion requires blood draws.

3. I'm not quite sure if there are masking agents for EPO and the half life is pretty short so I don't know why it would require one. I can think of diuretics as a possibility, but those are detectable in urinalysis see Chavez Jr.

4. Urine testing detects the target structure to determine the synthetic from naturally occurring EPO.

Thank you, brother. So you KNOW!

1. Do you believe Conte when he speaks of different "species?"

2. Does urine testing detect any kind of blood doping other than EPO?

3. If EPO has a short life and thus is not detected by the urine test, how else can you possibly know a fighter may be using? Is there any other way? If yes, how?

4. Is this answer the same as saying it detects the unaturally-made EPO?

[IMDAZED]

All of the above brother.

Ahh...makes sense now. Carry on. Followers are usually blind.

[rao007]

After the strenuous activity, his hema level would rise precipitously. No?

And wouldn't that be the same where he really needs it, in the fight?

[rao007]

Ahh...makes sense now. Carry on. Followers are usually blind.

I love you too. From boxing fan to a Mayweather fan.

[thatnickuh]

I blame em both.

Pac for not agreeing to the late compromise and Floyd for bringing the dumbass issue up in the first place.

How is the possibility of Pacquiao using PEDs a "dumb issue"? You people are hilarious.

[IMDAZED]

I love you too. From boxing fan to a Mayweather fan.

No, no, no. See...I'm not you. Not everyone who is questioning your hero is a crazed Mayweather fan. Damn, now what?

[Hijo de Dios]

And wouldn't that be the same where he really needs it, in the fight?

But without the test history, it is difficult to track the changes.

Whatever, guys. i don't really care that much. Pac has moved on. May should fight Mosley.

I do find it funny that all of the Pac fans were complaining that Floyd was forcing manny into a fight for march and pac wouldn't have time to recover from his busted eardrum.

Doesn't seem that was quite true. Does it?

[rao007]

You didn't read my post. Regurgitating costs and explaining how urine tests are a cure-all just because it can detect EPO is not going to cut it. How believable do you think you sound contradicting what Victor Conte has to say? Get real. You keep touting the same two things as if that somehow shuts down his point. It doesn't.

1. How many "synthetic" blood doping methods are there?

2. Are urine tests capable of detecting all of them? Better yet, how many methods can urine tests detect?

3. Can a urine test detect masking agents for EPO?

4. Aside from the product itself, how does a urine test show signs of possible doping?

You make some errant assumptions. Referring to every conceivable ****tail of PEDs and its variants and why urine tests won't be able to detect them is pointless...other than to say USADA isn't able capable of finding them which includes the blood tests.. That's why they want to keep athletes blood sample for 8 years..

By the way, I'm all for random, blood, urine testing.