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  • Bee Keepz
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    #51
    Originally posted by Soir
    Victor Conte: "If you had 24 days, youd have more than enough time to juice up on EPO and test clean"

    Mayweather people contacted me and asked about Ideal cutoff dates

    5 days before fight is ideal cutoff date

    Anything above 10 days is iffy and would allow fighter to build up EPO levels during training and maintain physique through fight night

    EPO is detected in urine.

    From WADA itself.

    http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Resources...EPO-Detection/

    When was a test to detect EPO implemented?

    A test for EPO was introduced at the 2000 Summer Olympic Games in Sydney (Australia). The test, validated by the International Olympic Committee (IOC), was based on the blood and urine matrix. A blood screening was performed first, and a urine test was then used to confirm possible use of EPO.

    In June 2003, WADA’s Executive Committee accepted the results of an independent report stating that urine tests alone can be used to detect the presence of recombinant EPO. This report, requested by WADA’s stakeholders and commissioned by the Agency to evaluate the validity of urinary and blood tests for detecting the presence of recombinant EPO, concluded that urinary testing is the only scientifically validated method for direct detection of recombinant EPO. This report also recommended that urine testing be used in conjunction with blood screening for a variety of reasons, including the cost savings of performing blood screening prior to testing urine. Some international sports federations still use both urine and blood matrix for the detection of EPO. Recently, the urine test was adapted to blood to perform detection of some new erythropoiesis stimulating agents.

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    • Hijo de Dios
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      #52
      Originally posted by Bee Keepz
      EPO is detected in urine and money is not an issue.

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      Bee,

      You don't need to keep posting this stuff.


      don't focus on any one or two drugs. There are many, many. While conte said that he thought May's doctors were targeting EPO, Conte also said there are "many, many species', and that some are only found in blood.

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      • Joeyzagz
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        #53
        Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
        I will when you realize that EPO is best detected by urine test.

        To which Pac has agreed to an unlimited number.
        He says HGH can only be detected by blood and it has to be done no longer than 36 hours after injection.

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        • rao007
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          #54
          Originally posted by Hijo de Dios
          Bee,

          You don't need to keep posting this stuff.


          don't focus on any one or two drugs. There are many, many. While conte said that he thought May's doctors were targeting EPO, Conte also said there are "many, many species', and that some are only found in blood.
          So you're dropping the whole list on Pacquiao and PEDs---what's next? He has his own pharmaceutical company?

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            #55
            Originally posted by Soir
            He says HGH can only be detected by blood and it has to be done 36 hours after injection.
            But, EPO has nothing to do with HGH... Is 2 different PED's

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              #56
              Originally posted by Soir
              Victor Conte: "If you had 24 days, youd have more than enough time to juice up on EPO and test clean"

              Mayweather people contacted me and asked about Ideal cutoff dates

              5 days before fight is ideal cutoff date

              Anything above 10 days is iffy and would allow fighter to build up EPO levels during training and maintain physique through fight night

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              This is moot issue.

              Pac has agreed to unlimited Urine tests.

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              • rao007
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                #57
                Originally posted by Soir
                He says HGH can only be detected by blood and it has to be done no longer than 36 hours after injection.
                While I do believe random drug testing is a good thing--that's just guess work in my opinion as a poster already claimed--you don't know if it's 24 days or 5 days.

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                • Bee Keepz
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Soir
                  He says HGH can only be detected by blood and it has to be done no longer than 36 hours after injection.
                  Yes, but the ****tails of drug which include an AAS is detectable by urinalysis. You heard him say personally say that HGH tests is worthless.

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                  • Hijo de Dios
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    You do know urine testing can detect EPO right? And, Pac agreed to random urine testing all the way up to the fight. So let just drop the EPO nonsense. If you guys believe he is on something else.
                    I don't know how else to say this.

                    There are over 100 drugs on the banned list. While I personally am not accusing Pac of anything, Team may thinks he is on a couple of things. And they are not telling.

                    I don't know, think, whatever that Pac is on anything.

                    But May wants open testing. For all 100+ substances. Stop focusing on 1 or 2.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      You do know urine testing can detect EPO right? And, Pac agreed to random urine testing all the way up to the fight. So let just drop the EPO nonsense. If you guys believe he is on something else.

                      urine testing CAN, but it isn't that reliable alone.


                      there are proteins released into the body from strenuos excercise, that are similar to EPO, and urine tests alone are troublesome when trying to distinguish what is what.....

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