Victor Conte talking steroids, Pacquiao and Boxing

[Hijo de Dios]

Yes, but the ****tails of drug which include an AAS is detectable by urinalysis. You heard him say personally say that HGH is worthless.

He did not say HGH is worthless. He said testing for HGH is worthless.

[IMDAZED]

"When they've drawn blood from Manny in the past he feels weaker for three or four days. It may be mental, but it's there"

Your answer.

I have to hand it to you. You're either a Pacquiao relative, an associate, an associate of an associate or one hell of a fan. Yeah, we got the answer, man. That's why we're su****ious.

[ThePunchingBag]

He says HGH can only be detected by blood and it has to be done no longer than 36 hours after injection.

HGH has to be done in conjunction with an anabolic drug which is detected by urinalysis and is most effective during the period of difficult training.

No point in using it 24 days before the fight.

[Bee Keepz]

urine testing CAN, but it isn't that reliable alone.


there are proteins released into the body from strenuos excercise, that are similar to EPO, and urine tests alone are troublesome when trying to distinguish what is what.....

Read the WADA information on EPO. Urinalysis is the ONLY conclusive test to detect synthetic EPO.

[Hijo de Dios]

"When they've drawn blood from Manny in the past he feels weaker for three or four days. It may be mental, but it's there"

Your answer.

rao007, then pac should have been happy with 14 days. Why didn't he take that?

[rao007]

I have to hand it to you. You're either a Pacquiao relative, an associate, an associate of an associate or one hell of a fan. Yeah, we got the answer, man. That's why we're su****ious.

Thank you for your love and admiration, imdazed. peace be with you.

[jrosales13]

I don't know how else to say this.

There are over 100 drugs on the banned list. While I personally am not accusing Pac of anything, Team may thinks he is on a couple of things. And they are not telling.

I don't know, think, whatever that Pac is on anything.

But May wants open testing. For all 100+ substances. Stop focusing on 1 or 2.

And, I understand that and I am ok with that. But, most of the posters on here keep mentioning EPO for some reason. And, in reality EPO can be detected during urine testing. So for the life of me I don't know why the keep bringing up EPO to prove a point when in reality it makes it a moot point. Look at Soir post for example. He keeps mentioning EPO. So obviously he does not know EPO can be detected during urine testing.

[rao007]

rao007, then pac should have been happy with 14 days. Why didn't he take that?

Roach liked 5 days....Pacquiao doesn't...probably for the reasons he already stated.

[ThePunchingBag]

I don't know how else to say this.

There are over 100 drugs on the banned list. While I personally am not accusing Pac of anything, Team may thinks he is on a couple of things. And they are not telling.

I don't know, think, whatever that Pac is on anything.

But May wants open testing. For all 100+ substances. Stop focusing on 1 or 2.

I just can't imagine why Mayweather would think Pac is on something unless he is scared of Pacquiao or just doesn't want to fight.

Why pass up 40 million on a su****ion?

[Hijo de Dios]

And, I understand that and I am ok with that. But, most of the posters on here keep mentioning EPO for some reason. And, in reality EPO can be detected during urine testing. So for the life of me I don't know why the keep bringing up EPO to prove a point when in reality it makes it a moot point. Look at Soir post for example. He keeps mentioning EPO. So obviously he does not know EPO can be detected during urine testing.

Question:

EPO can be detected. But can the hematocrit level be measured?