Victor Conte talking steroids, Pacquiao and Boxing

[Hijo de Dios]

Why do you want to measure hct level when you've already detected synthetic EPO (which is illegal)?

Hct level is just a cheaper way to test for EPO and it's indirect. It's just like saying "hey this guy is su****ious, spend more money for a urinalysis to be exact". Money is not an issue in this fight.

mayweather is getting advise from doctors and steroid experts. Is it fair to say that those guys know better than you or I?

Similarly, pac is getting advice. only MP knows how/why he feels after needle.

[Bee Keepz]

Are you serious? You have Victor Conte - one of the men who revolutionized PEDs with advancements like EPO - telling you that urine is not enough and here you are saying something different? He gave this to Shane Mosley, for goodness sake. Do the math, man.

If Pacquiao is on EPO there are lab works out there measuring/monitoring his Hgb/Hct levels.

Money is not an issue with these tests, they can use the expensive urinalysis to detect the synthetic EPO. WADA already stated that synthetic EPO is best detected in urine.

[Hijo de Dios]

Floyd also said "no" to Pac's 24 day proposal.

To get to the point, Pac shouldve accepted the 14 day proposal, no matter how late it came and Floyd should have never brought the ****** issue up.

**** them both.

Real talk? Team may offered the 14 day proposal before the mediation (even according to Arum)

Mediation wasn't even necessary. Floyd had split it down the middle.

[Bee Keepz]

mayweather is getting advise from doctors and steroid experts. Is it fair to say that those guys know better than you or I?

Similarly, pac is getting advice. only MP knows how/why he feels after needle.

I'll ask you this what is the basis of Mayweather's accusations?

[Bee Keepz]

After the strenuous activity, his hema level would rise precipitously. No?

No. It's a negative feedback mechanism, low O2 -> body compensates by increasing production of RBC.

Dehydration can also increase Hct level.

[IMDAZED]

If Pacquiao is on EPO there are lab works out there measuring/monitoring his Hgb/Hct levels.

Money is not an issue with these tests, they can use the expensive urinalysis to detect the synthetic EPO. WADA already stated that synthetic EPO is best detected in urine.

We know that synthetic blood doping can be detected in urine. Can it detect anything else? And by the way, what does "synthetic EPO" mean? EPO is "synthetic." And naturally, there are masking agents athletes take to cover this up. But by taking the urine test with the blood test, you have the user at checkmate. Even if they are unable to detect the EPO, they will know something is amiss by checking the blood count. Furthermore, the blood test can detect natural transfusions, among other things. I'm no doctor but there's every reason to believe that the objects used for these transfusions aren't as messy as in years past. And so forth. So cut it out. And since the blood test is so much cheaper (like being more efficient is a bad thing?), there should be no problem putting up cash for it on a consistent basis.

[ThePunchingBag]

Real talk? Team may offered the 14 day proposal before the mediation (even according to Arum)

Mediation wasn't even necessary. Floyd had split it down the middle.

Pac wasn't told until after the mediation.

So yes, it did come late.

[Bee Keepz]

Real talk? Team may offered the 14 day proposal before the mediation (even according to Arum)

Mediation wasn't even necessary. Floyd had split it down the middle.

Why take random blood tests when it's unnecessary?

[IMDAZED]

Pac wasn't told until after the mediation.

So yes, it did come late.

Who said this?

[Hijo de Dios]

Why take random blood tests when it's unnecessary?

Ummmmm, TO MAKE A 40 MILLION DEAL. It's called a compromise. A trade-off.

have you ever bought an insurance policy on something but not have a claim? it happens.

Floyd has always made 147. But Pac wanted a $10 mil per lb policy to be sure. It happens. i'm fine with that.

For $40 million, you can draw the blood from my penis.