Victor Conte talking steroids, Pacquiao and Boxing

[Hijo de Dios]

You need to read in context.

The period in which HGH would be most effective is when the fighter is doing the more extensive training. Pacquiao would still be doing random drug tests long after they'd finished doing their hardest training.

What's the use of using HGH when you're winding down your training regimen?
Little to any at all.

*****s jump at any opportunity to give these drug tests on Pacquiao credibility.

Punch,

Stop focusing on HGH... or on any specific drug.

[rao007]

Conte is stressing that May's concern was EPO. Not HGH.

"You can get an advantage at 24 days that you can't at 14 days because of the testing period and ramping on/off."

Wait, I thought it was Mayweather Jr. and Sr's desire to figure out Pacquiao's punching power?

[jrosales13]

its not hgh its epo their looking for

You need blood testing to find HGH. But, urine testing can find EPO. So random urine testing up to the fight like Pac agreed to can detect EPO...

[ThePunchingBag]

Floyd is use to breaking guys down and he doesnt want Pac to have all this unatural engery late when Floyd has ususally slowed cats down a ton

Dude, the reason why Floyd Sr. brought this **** up was because Pac was hurting Cotto and walking through his punches.

Even then, if you watch the 9-10 rounds of that fight you could see Pac was getting tired. So where was all that unnatural energy?

[Hijo de Dios]

Conte received calls from the doctors who are consulting with May. He told them that testing until five days is ideal. Ten days would be OK, and he advised may against a 14 day cut-off. At 14 days, you can get an extra 1-2 weeks of training on EPO that you can then take into the fight.

That runs in direct contrast to what Arrum said (that the mediators later also contested0.

[Bee Keepz]

EPO is detected in urine and money is not an issue.

From WADA itself.

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Resources...EPO-Detection/

When was a test to detect EPO implemented?

A test for EPO was introduced at the 2000 Summer Olympic Games in Sydney (Australia). The test, validated by the International Olympic Committee (IOC), was based on the blood and urine matrix. A blood screening was performed first, and a urine test was then used to confirm possible use of EPO.

In June 2003, WADA’s Executive Committee accepted the results of an independent report stating that urine tests alone can be used to detect the presence of recombinant EPO. This report, requested by WADA’s stakeholders and commissioned by the Agency to evaluate the validity of urinary and blood tests for detecting the presence of recombinant EPO, concluded that urinary testing is the only scientifically validated method for direct detection of recombinant EPO. This report also recommended that urine testing be used in conjunction with blood screening for a variety of reasons, including the cost savings of performing blood screening prior to testing urine. Some international sports federations still use both urine and blood matrix for the detection of EPO. Recently, the urine test was adapted to blood to perform detection of some new erythropoiesis stimulating agents.


Regarding HGH to gain weight, why not just eat? Majority of these guys are coming down from 20-25 lbs of walk around weight for weigh ins. They suck down and dehydrate themselves to as low as they can go.

Pacquiao was struggling to make 130 and has come up 15 lbs on fight night since MAB and JMM.

[Joeyzagz]

Victor Conte: "If you had 24 days, youd have more than enough time to juice up on EPO and test clean"

Mayweather people contacted me and asked about Ideal cutoff dates

5 days before fight is ideal cutoff date

Anything above 10 days is iffy and would allow fighter to build up EPO levels during training and maintain physique through fight night

[Hijo de Dios]

I assume that some of you can't get this radio show. That is the only reason i'm doing a round-by-round. please let me know if you don't need this. i'd rather just listen.

[ThePunchingBag]

Punch,

Stop focusing on HGH... or on any specific drug.

I will when you realize that EPO is best detected by urine test.

To which Pac has agreed to an unlimited number.

[jrosales13]

Victor Conte: "If you had 24 days, youd have more than enough time to juice up on EPO and test clean"

Mayweather people contacted me and asked about Ideal cutoff dates

5 days before fight is ideal cutoff date

Anything above 10 days is iffy and would allow fighter to build up EPO levels during training and maintain physique through fight night

You do know urine testing can detect EPO right? And, Pac agreed to random urine testing all the way up to the fight. So let just drop the EPO nonsense. If you guys believe he is on something else.