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  • #51
    Originally posted by Kok123 View Post
    This whole thing was filed way before Paulie and teddy open their mouths. Hence that's why only the NY daily article was shown.
    there's a difference between what paulie and teddy did than what others have.

    i'm no lawyer but i think to prove slander/libel you have to show 1 of 2 things:

    1. that the defendant intentionally stated something he knew was false.

    2. there was malicious , vindictive intent to harm a person's reputation



    #1 is hard to prove. how do you prove a person knew something?

    #2 is a bit easier against the mayweather's and golden boy. though it's still no slam dunk.

    i don't know if pacquiao can win the case but if it goes to a jury "all bets are off". you know how weird some of these jury's decisions have been in high profile cases.



    what malignaggi and atlas did is totally different.

    atlas reported something a source told him. he never claimed it to be true. he just reported it.

    malignaggi , from the interviews i've heard , never said it as a fact. from what i heard , he gave his opinion on it.

    one could argue the mayweathers and golden boy were stating their opinions as well but there is somewhat of a case to be made about why they would state those opinions and pacquiao's lawyers can attempt to prove some kind of malicious intent or at least motive for malicious intent.

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    • #52
      @ Bootneck
      I was referring to what Ballin have said BN. He said something about why Paulie's accusations and teddy's sources wasnt in the file since it was more damaging that the NYdaily article.

      I said it was because it was filed way before those two open their mouths. Nothing about the two being same with their claims.

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      • #53
        Using a email as basis for such a big statement is quite daring.....

        Emails can be falsified easily. Think about the spam that is not coming from the sender you think it is from.

        They are even more easily changed by the receiver. There are ways to change the content of the emails in your inbox of most email programs or to copy the original mail and save a copy with adjustments....

        Just try it with a email in your box.

        Emails in the inbox of the receiver or forwarded (even more easily to be adjusted) are than showed to Teddy.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Kok123 View Post
          @ Bootneck
          I was referring to what Ballin have said BN. He said something about why Paulie's accusations and teddy's sources wasnt in the file since it was more damaging that the NYdaily article.

          I said it was because it was filed way before those two open their mouths. Nothing about the two being same with their claims.
          yeah i understand. not going against anyone's point of view i'm just throwing my 2 cents in. i think this lawsuit is interesting.

          i think paulie opened his big mouth before the suit was filed. not completely positive though.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by KJ View Post
            Using a email as basis for such a big statement is quite daring.....

            Emails can be falsified easily. Think about the spam that is not coming from the sender you think it is from.

            They are even more easily changed by the receiver. There are ways to change the content of the emails in your inbox of most email programs or to copy the original mail and save a copy with adjustments....

            Just try it with a email in your box.

            Emails in the inbox of the receiver or forwarded (even more easily to be adjusted) are than showed to Teddy.
            teddy as far as i know didn't even see any emails.

            his source just told him about it.

            at least that's what i gather from what he stated on espn fnf.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Bogig View Post
              Quote from Roy Jones Jr.:

              "Hell naw. Why change the rules on me? Because I'm coming up in weight means I'm doing steroids? They're giving you a test for that anyway. It would be something that would aggravate me because then after I beat you, I was on something, don't play with me. Either you want to fight or you don't want to fight.
              Roy Jones jr is the LAST person I would want on my side if people had any su****ions of me doing something dodgy!

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Bootneck View Post
                yeah i understand. not going against anyone's point of view i'm just throwing my 2 cents in. i think this lawsuit is interesting.

                i think paulie opened his big mouth before the suit was filed. not completely positive though.
                right, paulie did say something, maybe a few weeks after Sr. so i dont know, not atlas which i can understand, i dont know much about law, i guess a person or persons cannot be added once filed?


                in fact i know maliginni said something before oscar said something, and oscar is in there...im just suspucious as to why they didnt include him
                Last edited by Ballllin; 01-10-2010, 08:26 AM.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Ballllin View Post
                  right, paulie did say something, maybe a few weeks after Sr. so i dont know, not atlas which i can understand, i dont know much about law, i guess a person or persons cannot be added once filed?


                  in fact i know maliginni said something before oscar said something, and oscar is in there...im just suspucious as to why they didnt include him
                  paulie said stuff before the suit. i'm almost positive about it.

                  it's hard for them to make a case against paulie though. he's just stating opinions.

                  mayweather and gbp can say they were stating opinions too but pac's lawyers can play the card that they did it intentionally because of whatever reason.

                  manny beating a mayweather trained fighter , manny beating gbp fighters , manny beating oscar , manny and floyd fighting for #1 p4p , #1 boxing draw , rankings , etc.

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                  • #59
                    Great points bn, do you have a degree in law?

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                    • #60
                      ima bump this thread

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