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  • IMDAZED
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    #11
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    c'mon dude... if ARiza told pac what he was taking, pac wouldn't even understand. pac never even finished high school.
    So? It's his job to tell him and explain. That's what nutrionists do.

    Geezus, this is getting weird. I can just see this court case now:

    Judge: Why didn't you tell Mr. Pacquiao what you were giving him?

    Ariza: "Come on, judge. He didn't even finish junior high."

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    • FLY TY
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      #12
      Originally posted by madsweeney
      Wow, another article that emphasises that fighters shouldn't dictate testing, rather the commissions should be leading charge. It also reiterates the importance of randomized year-round testing to catch cheats.

      Did you guys miss those two major details or did you think this article makes Pac look bad?

      If you guys really want to clean up the sport the boxing commissions need to require randomized blood and urine testing through out the year. I don't think any fan would be against that.
      if you read the article in its full context, and not just taken out 2 or 3 sentences to support your position, you would've also taken that the author was saying, "it shouldn't be the fighter's RESPONSIBILITY to dictate a level playing field, rather that should be the governing bodies' responsibilty, in this case the NSAC."

      he then went on to point out that the current NSAC testing procedures are, and i quote, "LAUGHABLE."

      did you miss that?

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        #13
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        why does it make pac look bad? pac isn't a nutrionist and we shouldn't expect him to know any better than we do. that's what ariza is paid for.
        Because the 'ownest' (I love how the editors allow such egregious misspellings to go through *the word is onus*) is on Pacquiao to be knowledgeable about what is going in his body and to hire nutritionists with integrity. If the nutritionist is suspect he should investigate and bring himself up to speed on all relevant information concerning his supplements and the integrity/history of the person in charge of his diet. Since he seems reluctant to do that, his (Manny's) integrity becomes suspect.

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        • Pullcounter
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          #14
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          WTF. Manny, like any other athlete, would know what he's taking because his nutrionist would tell him. They don't just shove pills in your face and say, "take this" without letting you know what they are. Informing his patient of what kind of treatment he's getting is PART OF HIS JOB.
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          So? It's his job to tell him and explain. That's what nutrionists do.

          Geezus, this is getting weird. I can just see this court case now:

          Judge: Why didn't you tell Mr. Pacquiao what you were giving him?

          Ariza: "Come on, judge. He didn't even finish junior high."

          C'mon dude, you don't even know what salicylic-acetic anhydride is without looking it up on wikipedia and I assume you got your GED. don't expect pac who speaks broken english to understand technical jargon in latin and greek.

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            #15
            why do people feel the need to come to assumptions when pac has already stated his reason. pac has been a clean fighter throughout his career, he respects his opponents, touches gloves, doesn't hold or hit behind the head, no lowblows. he is a clean fighter so stop this crap and give him the benefit. some of you just wish he was on something.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Nuurzhaelan
              Because the 'ownest' (I love how the editors allow such egregious misspellings to go through *the word is onus*) is on Pacquiao to be knowledgeable about what is going in his body and to hire nutritionists with integrity. If the nutritionist is suspect he should investigate and bring himself up to speed on all relevant information concerning his supplements and the integrity/history of the person in charge of his diet. Since he seems reluctant to do that, his (Manny's) integrity becomes suspect.
              come on!!! you don't even know the ingredients to the big mac special sauce.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Pullcounter
                C'mon dude, you don't even know what salicylic-acetic anhydride is without looking it up on wikipedia and I assume you got your GED. don't expect pac who speaks broken english to understand technical jargon in latin and greek.
                You really think that's what nutritionists tell people? Is that what your Doc tells you when you have to take a shot? No, you say what it is (which they won't understand), then explain what it does and what it's for. That's it. Pow, ping, end of story.

                "Manny doesn't know what I give him." Someone should have asked him if he ever tried telling him instead of saying, "Here, take this." And of course Manny (who Roach claims he can't get to even take vitamins) says, "No prob, Alex. Mmm, looks good!"

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by fcastro1
                  why do people feel the need to come to assumptions when pac has already stated his reason. pac has been a clean fighter throughout his career, he respects his opponents, touches gloves, doesn't hold or hit behind the head, no lowblows. he is a clean fighter so stop this crap and give him the benefit. some of you just wish he was on something.
                  it's b/c the excuses he's "reaching" for are laughable....as stated in the article.


                  NOBODY whishes the pacman was on anything.....


                  WE ALL WISH, FOR BOXING'S SAKE, THE FIGHT GETS DONE. IF AGREEING TO RANDOM TESTS DOES THAT, THEN DO IT.

                  ......if you have nothing to hide.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by tyde13
                    it's b/c the excuses he's "reaching" for are laughable....as stated in the article.


                    NOBODY whishes the pacman was on anything.....


                    WE ALL WISH, FOR BOXING'S SAKE, THE FIGHT GETS DONE. IF AGREEING TO RANDOM TESTS DOES THAT, THEN DO IT.

                    ......if you have nothing to hide.
                    And we all wish the top fighters would take the lead and set an example. Not b*tch and moan about a request that's (gasp!) reasonable and applaudable.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by tyde13
                      it's b/c the excuses he's "reaching" for are laughable....as stated in the article.


                      NOBODY whishes the pacman was on anything.....


                      WE ALL WISH, FOR BOXING'S SAKE, THE FIGHT GETS DONE. IF AGREEING TO RANDOM TESTS DOES THAT, THEN DO IT.

                      ......if you have nothing to hide.
                      and why does floyd have to persist with his demand when he knows about pac and morales incident? why would you not want a 100% pac against floyd?

                      nothing to suggest pac is acheat so people should stop making assumptions.

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