WHEN SHOULD CLINTCHING be ALLOWED in BOXING?

[Adamantium]

Most of us wish for the same thing but it's boxing, can't do anything about it.

Do you know of any active fighters who can fight on the inside, apart from Toney?

[Silencers]

Do you know of any active fighters who can fight on the inside, apart from Toney?

Tim Bradley, Lamont Peterson, Miguel Cotto, Mayweather, they're out there. They might not be as good as Toney on the inside but they know how to work in there.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Tim Bradley, Lamont Peterson, Miguel Cotto, Mayweather, they're out there. They might not be as good as Toney on the inside but they know how to work in there.

Silencers there has not been one man over 154lbs that I see that can fight on the inside. Williams for a tall lanky guy does okay on the inside....Lefty

[Eric Holder]

ideally, I think fighters should only clinch if they're hurt and trying to buy time or if they're trapped against the ropes and they clinch quickly to turn their opponent around. Excessive clinching really affects the flow of fights and (imo) it's had a significant impact in the decline of quality inside fighting.

[Adamantium]

Tim Bradley, Lamont Peterson, Miguel Cotto, Mayweather, they're out there. They might not be as good as Toney on the inside but they know how to work in there.

Thanks, I'm not really familiar with those guys Ill look them up.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Thanks, I'm not really familiar with those guys Ill look them up.

you are not fam with Tim Bradley, Lamont Peterson, Miguel Cotto, Mayweather....I could see you talking about Peterson but Bradley and Mayweather? You are being sarcastic right?.....Lefty

[2501]

I haven't seen Floyd be an effective inside fighter above 140. Against Hatton, he just elbowed and clinched.

[Silencers]

Silencers there has not been one man over 154lbs that I see that can fight on the inside. Williams for a tall lanky guy does okay on the inside....Lefty

Pavlik showed against Espino that he can fight pretty well on the inside, Ward just did some good stuff against Kessler on the inside, Glen Johnson, Fragomeni to a lesser extent, Diaconu.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Pavlik showed against Espino that he can fight pretty well on the inside, Ward just did some good stuff against Kessler on the inside, Glen Johnson, Fragomeni to a lesser extent, Diaconu.

Silencers I posted this hear cause I though it had more premise to this thread than the one we were going back and forth in....

I'm not just basing it on the early parts of the Collazo fight but with the Urango fight as well where he was allowed to hold for long periods without getting warned harshly for it, he wasn't hurt in that fight. It totally ruined the rhythm of the fight. I have nothing wrong with clinches, I have a problem with them when it gets excessive, Berto seems to get excessive with it.

In respect to this thread I was strictly talking about the Collazo fight. I agree with you 100% about the Urango fight I even made a thread about it

Berto dancing and holding his way in a snoozefest

The same would need to be said about Andre Ward when he fought Edison Miranda too Silencers....I also made a thread about that fight....

Ward Held, Elbow'd and Shoved His Way To Victory...

These two threads were posted by myself back when the fights happened I was not given too much thought back then but I am bringing them up to the light now...Check them out let me knw if I was off base about those fights now...Lefty

[DiegoFuego]

Pavlik showed against Espino that he can fight pretty well on the inside, Ward just did some good stuff against Kessler on the inside, Glen Johnson, Fragomeni to a lesser extent, Diaconu.

no way man. Pavlik got lit up on the inside. If that guy had any pop, Pavlik could have lost