WHEN SHOULD CLINTCHING be ALLOWED in BOXING?

[Go Blue]

Clinching is a part of boxing.

Something Cotto wish he knew how to do.

[ma51f]

it shouldnt be allowed.

clinching needs to stay in mma not boxing.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

thought of this in recent light of Amir Khan getting charged 2 points for pushing

[deuce_drop]

Many different views on this subject my friends. People have came on the show and expressed dislike for it and others say like it or not it is a part of boxing. My question warrants a good logical answer and if you could provide a fight that backs up your assesment of the rule that would be great....Lefty

clinching is a smart tactic if used properly, most of the time it's abused and falls into the foul category.....

you can tell a fighter that uses it as a necessity vs a fighter who uses it as a tactic.

a fighter that clinches too much is obvious, but what makes it more obvious is when you can see that fighter isn't able to clinch as often as he wants, he will get knocked out, he's in a constant state of fouling........

you see lots of fighters do that, and although he wasn't in any threat of getting knocked out, he was on his way to losing by a WIDE margin, was amir khan in his last fight with peterson, if khan wasn't able to clinch and hold and pull petersons head down, khan would've REALLY looked like an amateur...... beyond losing on points.......

that is just one example, might not be the best one, but it's one of the more recent that comes to mind at the moment.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

clinching is a smart tactic if used properly, most of the time it's abused and falls into the foul category.....

you can tell a fighter that uses it as a necessity vs a fighter who uses it as a tactic.

a fighter that clinches too much is obvious, but what makes it more obvious is when you can see that fighter isn't able to clinch as often as he wants, he will get knocked out, he's in a constant state of fouling........

you see lots of fighters do that, and although he wasn't in any threat of getting knocked out, he was on his way to losing by a WIDE margin, was amir khan in his last fight with peterson, if khan wasn't able to clinch and hold and pull petersons head down, khan would've REALLY looked like an amateur...... beyond losing on points.......

that is just one example, might not be the best one, but it's one of the more recent that comes to mind at the moment.

That was a really good post. I appreciate you hitting up my thread. As for another example is Alexander over Maidana. Clinching needs to be involved in your strategic plan when fighting a boxer like Maidana or your classic pressure fighter. Alexander clinched excessively and was allowed to do so. I made this thread after Ward fought Miranda and used clinching in that bout. What Khan did was more then clinching he used his elbow to push off by placing it in Maidana's throat on several occasions. He pushed his head down blatantly and also held excessively.

When I think of this thread I think of 3 fighters.....

Ward (Miranda and Kessler bouts)
Alexander (Bradley and Maidana bouts)
Khan (Maidana and Peterson bouts)

[#1Assassin]

clinching is part of boxing, thats a fact. how much clinching that should be allowed is subjective. it depends on the situation and the person making the call.

but clinching is part of boxing, anyone who truly understands the sport can see that quite easily. especially if you fought yourself, sometimes you can get wrapped up in there without either fighter even trying.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

clinching is part of boxing, thats a fact. how much clinching that should be allowed is subjective. it depends on the situation and the person making the call.

but clinching is part of boxing, anyone who truly understands the sport can see that quite easily. especially if you fought yourself, sometimes you can get wrapped up in there without either fighter even trying.

understood fully if you have to forces moving forward then you are bound to have some type of tie up or wrap up. This is why foot work is key in the ring. To avoid being clinched or tied up use your feet to pivot and turn your body and your opponent. This eliminates the clinches but in some cases like the fights where I mentioned certain bouts it was evident and needed to be warned would you not agree?

[BCSunstoppable]

When you're hurt, you should be allowed to clinch. I also have no problem with a fighter clinching here and there to avoid getting pinned down and such as long as that is not your only move to get out of it (Mayweather is a good ex. of this, when cornered he can use 3,4 different tactics to get out of it, its not always clinching.

Clinching should NOT be allowed if its part of your style of boxing, punch and hold, punch and hold, punch and hold, this type of fighters are ruining boxing and refs should penalize for that.

The Alexander Maidana fight was funny, you can see so clearly that Alexander is so used to training that way (punch and hold), I mean he had Maidana hurt and he'd be the one doing the holding...wtf...its already in his system he can't control it cause he trains to fight like that and it works, and this is not something we want our young fighters to learn.

[BCSunstoppable]

clinching is part of boxing, thats a fact. how much clinching that should be allowed is subjective. it depends on the situation and the person making the call.

but clinching is part of boxing, anyone who truly understands the sport can see that quite easily. especially if you fought yourself, sometimes you can get wrapped up in there without either fighter even trying.

I understand what you're saying but at the same time in that situation, the only reason the clinching happens is bc that's what one of the fighters is thinking of doing once he goes in, the clinch doesn't just magically happend, look at all the fights with great warriors going after each other, you would rarely see clinches bc they would go into each other to throw and block, no thoughts about clinching to not get hit while close.

[New England]

a man should be able to tie an opponent up if he's hurt.

if he's strong enough and can manage it he's got to be allowed to buy himself time and clear his head.

he's got to tie up both hands. if a man can keep his hands free he's got to be allowed to punch.


otherwise i think excessive clinches should be penalized if they're clearly being initiated by one fighter. alexander was holding on saturday, but it certainly didnt win him the fight.

maidana looked soft, worn out, and overmatched at 147. alexander beat the tar of him.
chino needs a rest and fights at 140. otherwise he risks becoming a gatekeeper.
he's not going to fight the way he does forever.