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Where Is All The Muscle That Pacquiao Supposedly Packed On?

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  • #11
    Its not about how much he weighs................

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    • #12
      Rabbit Punches: I totally misread your post. Sorry for that irrelevant answer on the first page. I must be losing my mind.



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      • #13
        Originally posted by Anton-Chigurh View Post
        Its not about how much he weighs................
        What is it about then? How muscular he is? Muscles don't win fights.



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        • #14
          Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
          2006 | 129 | Morales III | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 15 lbs
          2007 | 130 | Barrera II | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 14lbs
          2008 | 129 | Marquez II | Ring Weight: 145 | Rehydration: 16lbs
          2008 | 134½ | Diaz | Ring Weight: 147 | Rehydration: 12½ lbs
          2008 | 142 | De La Hoya | Ring Weight: 148.5 | Rehydration: 6½ lbs
          2009 | 138 | Hatton | Ring Weight: 148 | Rehydration: 10 lbs
          2009 | 144 | Cotto | Ring Weight: 149 | Rehydration: 5 lbs

          144-149 = 5 lbs difference in three years.

          The real difference is nowadays he isn't cutting so much weight. For the second Marquez fight, for example, Pacquiao would be cutting around 20 pounds (possibly more) from his walk-around weight. Less starvation appears to make Pacquiao a much better fighter. Is this abnormal? Personally, I don't think it's any cause for concern.
          That is great proof of why he is NOT taking steriods. Putting on 15 pounds overnight means you had to cut pretty hard to get down to fighting weight, which means Pac has probably been weaker in his last couple years in the featherweight and JLW division because of that. He has weighed in on fight night at at least 144 since 2006 which means he has been fighting at divisions way lower than his natural weight. That is why he keeps moving up divisions and knocking mofos out, because he is now not having to cut the weight so he can keep his full strength.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
            What is it about then? How muscular he is? Muscles don't win fights.
            Ofcourse they dont........

            -Muscles
            -Increased Speed
            -Increased Power
            - Punch Resistance 9He ate Cottos shots like Candy)
            -Yet JMM had on ***** street several times
            -The maner in which hes beating bigger fighters.
            -The time frame hes done it in.

            It raises questions.

            Like Paulie said:

            If someone was accsuing me of this ****..I would take the tests so I could get in the ring then whoop their ass, take my 40 million and smile knowing I prove the doubters wrong and I just proved Im better then Mayweather.

            But no he sued, and wants to fight Paulie when Bradley called Pac out as well.

            Interesting.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
              Rabbit Punches: I totally misread your post. Sorry for that irrelevant answer on the first page. I must be losing my mind.
              Lol. It's all good homie.

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              • #17
                Sure, lets say Manny isnt taking roids. Why not just agree to the tests? Floyd agreed to a cutoff date with the USADA before the fight. I think the issue here is that ARUM is letting his ego get in the way of this fight.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Easy-E View Post
                  Sure, lets say Manny isnt taking roids. Why not just agree to the tests? Floyd agreed to a cutoff date with the USADA before the fight. I think the issue here is that ARUM is letting his ego get in the way of this fight.
                  Pac gets a tube of blood drawn within days of the Hatton fight...yet he cant take a teaspoon in 30 days with Floyd?

                  ??

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Easy-E View Post
                    Sure, lets say Manny isnt taking roids. Why not just agree to the tests? Floyd agreed to a cutoff date with the USADA before the fight. I think the issue here is that ARUM is letting his ego get in the way of this fight.
                    both of them doesnt agree what the other camp suggested

                    they have their own drug test rule

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by boxer#1 View Post
                      That is great proof of why he is NOT taking steriods. Putting on 15 pounds overnight means you had to cut pretty hard to get down to fighting weight, which means Pac has probably been weaker in his last couple years in the featherweight and JLW division because of that. He has weighed in on fight night at at least 144 since 2006 which means he has been fighting at divisions way lower than his natural weight. That is why he keeps moving up divisions and knocking mofos out, because he is now not having to cut the weight so he can keep his full strength.
                      That's how I see it, too.

                      Also -- and I'll make a point that I am not making excuses by saying Pacquiao was drained at 130 -- recently, Roach has mentioned that Manny was really struggling to make weight for his last few fights at 130, despite the articles that surfaced with Roach saying saying "Manny will make weight, it'll be OK", and if this is true, I'm not surprised he looked less than stellar in the second Marquez fight. I remember watching the weigh-in and thinking he looked awful, just totally dried out like an old bone.





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