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  • switchsouthpaw
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    #201
    Originally posted by renren40
    and what are those drugs Bill Bye the science guy?
    Lol great question, now everyone is a chemist.

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    • DiLLiNGER
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      #202
      I understand both sides,the best thing to do would be just take the damn test after the fight and give the fans the fight.

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      • switchsouthpaw
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        #203
        Originally posted by spinika7
        Well the burden of proof in a court of law for slander/libel actually rests with the plantiff.....
        It's "plaintiff" and in this case Mayweather is the plaintiff(complainant). In a libel case the burden of proof rests on the claimant, which is why they must hand over all documentation of "proof" to the defense, this is called "discovery".

        Mayweather in this case has asserted that Pac is taking PEDs, in a court of law he will be asked to provide proof (discovery) to backup those assertions, obviously Pac has never once tested for PEDs. The case will be over in a matter of days and you're welcome for the lesson.
        Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 12-26-2009, 10:53 PM.

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        • AIR_KENG
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          #204
          Originally posted by MindBat
          I don't disagree the NSAC is established. What the majority disagree with is
          Team Pacquiao's reluctance to undergo a simple testing procedure with No Cutoff Dates.

          It's been established by the USADA that cutoff dates permit any athlete enough time to "hide" any substances he may or may not be putting into his body.

          The simple fact is that Team Pacquiao demands a cutoff date for whatever reason.

          Team Mayweather Does Not demand a cutoff date and is perfectly fine with getting tested whenever they wish.

          Is that understandable and reasonable?
          Here's the thing, NSAC's standard tests are what Arum has been always saying. One during the kick-off press con, one 30 days before the fight and one right after the fight. So all professional fights in LV up to this day has been subjected to this terms.

          Pac agreed to random testing just not on the day of the fight(I have to reiterate, ) which is way better than what has been placed by the NSAC and should be good enough for Floyd and his team. Which is by the way good enough for Floyd and his team after they got word of the lawsuit.

          Isn't that understandable and reasonable?

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          • TimothyQ
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            #205
            I think what's lost in the shuffle here is that for the first time Floyd is admitting he's worried about losing. Right now there isn't a shred of proof that Manny is on anything, so Floyd is saying "This guy can't be this good, can he? He's gotta be on something, I don't want to risk my perfect record."

            He's not only admitting that he has doubts that he can beat Manny but he's also admitting that a flyweight on steroids might be able to beat him. We all know from that great article the other day that Manny has been at this weight (and drained himself out to make smaller weights) for about 4 years now but if Floyd is going to make accusations based on Manny's rise in weights he's admitting that a flyweight on 'roids can beat him.

            Mark it on calender, Floyd thinks he could lose and since Manny has never failed a drug test, he's admitting it about clean fighter. Before, I thought this was a really even fight and may have actually given the edge to Floyd but now that even Floyd is expressing doubt, I'm thinking Manny has an advantage.

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            • HumanNature
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              #206
              Nice! finally some glimmer of hope, all the news of the fight beign off at actually affected my mood.

              ALL YOU Pacman & Money FANBOYS who are saying stuff like don't stop the lawsuite of don't back down on the depends are reatarted flamos and shouldn't call yourselves boxing fans!!

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              • AIR_KENG
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                #207
                Originally posted by RodBarker
                Look a bit closer the key words are , I dont want to fight in the ring in a fair fight with Floyd he is just too good , I want things my way like Cotto and Oscar and I dont care that Floyd has agreed to everything even my ****** 10 mill forfeit that I have thrown at him , its just not fair everybody is looking at me and Im looking like a girl running away ,,,,,,,,,so Im going to sue him .
                LOL @ 10 million forfeit. It is like you guys are so depressed that he won't be able to go over 147 on weigh in day.

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                • IMDAZED
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                  #208
                  Originally posted by AIR_KENG
                  Here's the thing, NSAC's standard tests are what Arum has been always saying. One during the kick-off press con, one 30 days before the fight and one right after the fight. So all professional fights in LV up to this day has been subjected to this terms.

                  Pac agreed to random testing just not on the day of the fight(I have to reiterate, ) which is way better than what has been placed by the NSAC and should be good enough for Floyd and his team. Which is by the way good enough for Floyd and his team after they got word of the lawsuit.

                  Isn't that understandable and reasonable?
                  Yeah, it's also false. That's not what Pacquiao has agreed to.

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                  • spinika7
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by switchsouthpaw
                    It's "plaintiff" and the burden of proof rests on the state, which is why the state must hand over all documentation of "proof" to the defense, this is called "discovery".

                    Mayweather in this case has asserted that Pac is taking PEDs, in a court of law he will be asked to provide proof (discovery) to backup those assertions, obviously Pac has never once tested for PEDs. The case will be over in a matter of days and you're welcome for the lesson.

                    apologies for spelling mistakes....i tpye fast

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                    • AIR_KENG
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                      #210
                      Originally posted by MindBat
                      Exactly keyword is With a deadline.

                      Why doesn't Floyd demand a deadline too?

                      Would that make Team Pacquiao happy?
                      which is only on the day of the fight? Can't you guys live with that? NSAC is the testing body. Not USADA. Pac's compromise is more than what the NSAC requires. What's the problem with that? Just one day guys. For the perceived biggest fight in 2010. Just one day.

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