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  • NYU Alum.
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    #101
    Originally posted by COACH WEBB
    Exactly man..Floyd wants the fight..his fans and stans want the fight. But the pac tards seem more happy for Pac to file a lawsuit or fight a Foreman or Paulie instead....let's see what happens.
    I want the fight to happen and I also want PAC to take Floyd Sr to court.

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    • switchsouthpaw
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      #102
      "How ridiculous is that that Pacquiao would go and fight the guy who makes accusations that he uses performance enhancing drugs instead of Mayweather (Jr.), who didn't make those accusations? Something is not right. I don't know how to explain it other than maybe Pacquiao doesn't want the Mayweather fight."

      Dan Rafael covers boxing for ESPN.com.

      Those quotes aren't attributed to Dan Rafael, they were made by Richard Schaefer, of course he is going to say that. People keep bringing up the fact that Manny requested a 10 million dollar penalty, per each pound over the 147 weight limit, while this is true it should be put into proper context.

      Manny is being treated as if he were guilty without even a shred of evidence to support those claims, conversely Mayweather did in fact come in over the stipulated weight against JMM, so there is precedence with respect to the 10 million dollar penalty request.

      The entire issue of monetary weight penalties vs drug testing are opposing issues, neither of which have anything to do with the other. Mayweather did come in overweight against JMM. Pac never once tested positive for PEDs. One issue has precedence while the other clearly does not.
      Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 12-26-2009, 08:28 PM.

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      • Pharoahe
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        #103
        Originally posted by Wupadupa
        Of course this fights gonna happen, this is all just bull**** to hype the fight.
        ^^

        First bit of common sense I've seen on this forum in a while.

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        • DonTaseMeBrah
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          #104
          Originally posted by COACH WEBB
          Exactly man..Floyd wants the fight..his fans and stans want the fight. But the pac tards seem more happy for Pac to file a lawsuit or fight a Foreman or Paulie instead....let's see what happens.

          there's no difference.



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          • switchsouthpaw
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            #105
            All of these issues pale in comparison to the fact that Floyd will coming up on 5 years at the weltweight division and it turns out that a court case may prove to be the toughest fight he's had in all five years combined.

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            • MindBat
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              #106
              Originally posted by switchsouthpaw
              "How ridiculous is that that Pacquiao would go and fight the guy who makes accusations that he uses performance enhancing drugs instead of Mayweather (Jr.), who didn't make those accusations? Something is not right. I don't know how to explain it other than maybe Pacquiao doesn't want the Mayweather fight."

              Dan Rafael covers boxing for ESPN.com.

              Those quotes aren't attributed to Dan Rafael, they were made by Richard Schaefer, of course he is going to say that. People keep bringing up the fact that Manny requested a 10 million dollar penalty, per each pound over the 147 weight limit, while this is true it should be into proper context.

              Manny is being treated as if he were guilty without even a shred of evidence to support those claims, conversely Mayweather did in fact come in over the stipulated weight against JMM, so there is precedence with respect to the 10 million dollar penalty request.

              The entire issue of monetary weight penalties vs drug testing are opposing issues, neither of which have anything to do with the other. Mayweather did come in overweight against JMM. Pac never once tested positive for PEDs. One issue has precedence while the other clearly does not.
              I understand and agree with some of what you're stating.

              However, have you considered that Floyd has agreed to basically all the issues, including the random testing protocols with no cutoff dates, yet it is only Team Pacquiao who wants a cutoff date?

              The NSAC cannot assure Team Mayweather and Team Pacquiao that blood testing will be implemented within the time frame required because they've never performed blood tests. Only urine tests.

              So, Arum doesn't care to use USADA, but has suggested that Team Mayweather contact the NSAC to venture and see if they can perform the
              blood work which NSAC cannot guarantee will be implemented by the time the fight rolls around.

              Do you understand that?

              Do you see how complicated Arum wants to make things?

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              • cencarnacion
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                #107
                Originally posted by RodBarker
                Manny and Arum are nearly cooked , where they gunna run to now .
                Your posts tell me that you ass is on your head and vice versa. I suggest you see a shrink.

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                • S A M U R A I
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by shemmue
                  actually floyd agreed to pac's demands they will wearr 8 oz. gloves he also agreed to 10 mil per lb. penalty.. he agreed to random drug testing and now has agreed to using another agency to administer the testing .. what has pac agreed to ??....
                  Originally posted by rogdogx
                  It's so obvious that floyd don't want the fight that he agreed to 8oz gloves, 147 weight, and all these other demands pac has made. Floyd is the one being reasonable here get it right. Pac knew about the Olympic style testing requirement immediately and the fact that he turned this down after the fight had already been agreed upon shows it is pac that is a scared lil filipina

                  WTF is going on with these kind of posts!!? Let's look at this realistically without the hate glasses on.


                  147: They BOTH fight in the Welterweight division. How the **** is this a "demand"? Floyd has been here for almost 5 years. Pacquiao just came up recently. Tell me how agreeing on 147 is somehow unfair?

                  8 oz gloves: This is common for welterweight fights. They agreed on the gloves with no fuss. It's not a crazy demand, it's totally normal.

                  And once again, Floyd has never had trouble making 147, so how is the 10 mil weight penalty even an issue?


                  OK, now if you guys are saying "well, Floyd agreed to 147", as though Pacquiao ****ing demanded it, you're basically saying Floyd really did want the fight above 147, right? Well, wouldn't that be a ***** move... you know, make Pacquiao go up even further in weight than he already has?

                  8 oz gloves are a very reasonable compromise. Floyd gets to wear the brand of his choice, and so does Pacquiao. If anyone has a problem with this, you're probably just looking for any tiny excuses to make a big deal out of nothing.

                  The most ridiculous part:

                  "he (Floyd) agreed to random drug testing"

                  He ****ing demanded it! Not "agreed", but demanded.





                  Pacquiao didn't make any demands.



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                  • mathed
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                    #109
                    Why are people making a big deal about the 10 mil per pound thing tho? It is a ww fight and the limit is 147 so anything over that makes it a catchweight fight. Floyd already paid nearly a mil for coming in over the weight 2 lbs like it was nothing, so even a 2 mil per lb would not likely be enough to dissuade May from cheating the weight. The professional thing to do is make the limit agreed to in the contract.

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                    • mathed
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by MindBat
                      I understand and agree with some of what you're stating.

                      However, have you considered that Floyd has agreed to basically all the issues, including the random testing protocols with no cutoff dates, yet it is only Team Pacquiao who wants a cutoff date?

                      The NSAC cannot assure Team Mayweather and Team Pacquiao that blood testing will be implemented within the time frame required because they've never performed blood tests. Only urine tests.

                      So, Arum doesn't care to use USADA, but has suggested that Team Mayweather contact the NSAC to venture and see if they can perform the
                      blood work which NSAC cannot guarantee will be implemented by the time the fight rolls around.

                      Do you understand that?

                      Do you see how complicated Arum wants to make things?
                      I thought that the NSAC normally conducts 2 blood sample tests along with 5 urine samples for fights.

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