I Googled the side effects of giving blood.

[Cash Cow]

you are giving blood? Or doing blood test? How many times your veins get poke?

lol..dude is a pansy

[big_james10]

Mentally and Physically. It's straight fact. We've all been getting blood taken since we were kids. It's always been the same. the doctor tells you to go home and take it easy or to take a nap because you will be tired and weak. Every doctor will tell you this. You also not allowed to operate machinery. but let me guess it's ok to fight in the biggest fight of all time.

I have never had a doctor tell me that after a blood test. You must have some serious physical problems if they told you that.

[Cash Cow]

Then there might be something wrong with you. My 2 year old had blood drawn the other day and was playing around just fine no soreness at all and no whining.

Your son > that clown!!

lol

[MindBat]

I agree to a point. But Pacquiao's refusal isn't an issue of guilt admittance if anything at all. First of all, OLYMPIC TYPE blood testing is based on random testing, if so, why is Pacquiao subjected to a "mandatory testing" called for by the Mayweather team (instead of the Nevada Athletic Commission)?

Is Mayweather's request (ironic that it should be random testing, not forced or mandatory) on Pacquiao?

But why wouldn't a test on January be enough also? Sure your video link shows that "Pacquiao have a responsibility to boxing" but that statement is slanted towards Pacquiao being guilty tied to his refusal towards testing whereas it isn't even mandated by the Nevada Athletic Commission!

Does this mean that if anybody harped that allegations and "trial" are necessarily be done because of it? If so, then there wouldn't be any competitions at all if allegations are being hurled left and right without due evidence towards a "legitimate" ground towards testing.

Mayweather Sr., who started this rumor of steroid use of Pacquiao, even backed down after Pacquiao's lawyer hinted of a lawsuit of "slandering" Pacquiao. Allegations are serious and if one does not have any backing to do so, then he is also should be put to jail or at least a trial.

This is ludicrous.

It is not an issue of guilt admittance. Especially if Floyd has agreed to undergo the same exact procedure.

Floyd Sr.'s accusation are his own opinion which were immediately spread by the boxing media and made a lot bigger than it had to be because he is a celebrity.

Is it right? I don't think it was the right thing to say, but he's entitled to his opinion like we all are.

However, Arum has been in the game for how long now? Based on his experience in the game and knowing the testing protocol differences of the NSAC and other testing organizations, why did they agree to Olympic style drug testing in the first place?

Why not simply refuse to agree to "random" testing of some outside testing body and say: We will not submit Manny to any other testing protocols but the procedures of the NSAC" ?

Why agree to it first, and risk looking bad to the public if those were not their intentions?

Here's some food for thought:

“Most states don’t test for steroids,” says Dr. Margaret Goodman, former Nevada Chief Ringside Physician and Chairman of the Nevada State Athletic Commission Medical Advisory Board. “In Nevada, we test fighters on championship cards. In New Jersey, they test every fighter for steroids. If we’d do what’s done in the Olympics or what the World Anti-Doping Agency recommends – sporadically test them during training – that would really be the best way. But if you check them right before or after a fight, they’ll test negative. Boxers are just as smart as anyone else and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to go online and look at how long a certain drug stays in your system.”

[Calilloyd]

That is because you are a *****... You dont know **** from Peanut Butter.... You showed how ****** you really are, and now you are trying to cover it up by making some fictitious claim of a life experience...

NEXT!

Consider the source. The thread starter also equated Mayweather numbing his hands to loaded gloves.

[fabie]

Exactly! why does Pac have to be the one to step up. If Mathew Hatton asks for this same test to be done on Floyd then there better not be a problem.

Pacquiao is of good standing with the Nevada Athletic Commission and has complied all of their rules and policies. Complied and passed all of their previous testings.

If so, then why is Pacquiao subjected under this unfair allegations by the opposing party? How legitimate is that?

The NAC isn't even the one making the actions, the Mayweather team are the ones making this into an issue.

[rod_serrs]

Wait....Here's a question. I often drive my grandfather to get his blood tests done at the doctor's office since he has diabetes. They draw the blood and he leaves the office and is off to work at a hotel. I notice that many other elderly people leave immediately and don't look weakened or weary in any way. So were supposed to believe that a prime and healthy 30 year old man will suffer ill effects, and dozens of senior citizen women I see leave the office don't?

[Xeraser]

lol..dude is a pansy

Well he might have an isolated case where he have platelet problems or taking anticoagulants or dehydrated then the one who drew his blood used 18 g then blew up the veins and thus he developed hematoma that cause your muscle sore. That's why I asked how many times he got poked.

[Calilloyd]

Only you think it will be a tablespoon. Are you doing the tests yourself? How the **** do you know what they are going to take. You just don't want to believe that someone can be as good as Pacquiao and not be black.

Now his real agenda comes out. He's too ****** to even realize it.

[big_james10]

I agree to a point. But Pacquiao's refusal isn't an issue of guilt admittance if anything at all. First of all, OLYMPIC TYPE blood testing is based on random testing, if so, why is Pacquiao subjected to a "mandatory testing" called for by the Mayweather team (instead of the Nevada Athletic Commission)?

Is Mayweather's request (ironic that it should be random testing, not forced or mandatory) on Pacquiao?

But why wouldn't a test on January be enough also? Sure your video link shows that "Pacquiao have a responsibility to boxing" but that statement is slanted towards Pacquiao being guilty tied to his refusal towards testing whereas it isn't even mandated by the Nevada Athletic Commission!

Does this mean that if anybody harped that allegations and "trial" are necessarily be done because of it? If so, then there wouldn't be any competitions at all if allegations are being hurled left and right without due evidence towards a "legitimate" ground towards testing.

Mayweather Sr., who started this rumor of steroid use of Pacquiao, even backed down after Pacquiao's lawyer hinted of a lawsuit of "slandering" Pacquiao. Allegations are serious and if one does not have any backing to do so, then he is also should be put to jail or at least a trial.

This is ludicrous.

You obviously don't know the difference between "random" and "mandatory". The terms are not related. "Mandatory" means "required". Athletes who choose to compete in the Olympic contests are "required" to take blood tests. Pac will only be "required" to take the tests if it is included in the contract. "Random" means the tests can be take at anytime. In other words, they are not given advance notice so athletes don't know "when" the tests are being given, which reduces their chances of cheating.

If Pac agrees to the tests, they will not receive "advance notice" of when the tests will be given. That is the sticking point. Pac wants "advance notice" of the tests. He wants to know exactly when the tests are being given. If he gets "advance notice" he will know that he should avoid using any performance enhancing substances prior to the test. The idea of the random tests is to prevent either one from cheating because they have no idea when the tests will be conducted.