I Googled the side effects of giving blood.

[Allucard]

Recovery and time between tests

Patients are usually kept at the test site for 10–15 minutes after giving blood since most adverse reactions take place during or immediately after the test. [51] Blood centers typically provide light refreshments such as tea and biscuits or a lunch allowance to help the patient recover.[52] The needle site is covered with a bandage and the patient is directed to keep the bandage on for several hours.[2] A typical Blood test is the equivalent of burning approximately 650 calories.[53]

removed plasma is replaced after 2-3 days.[54] Red blood cells are replaced by bone marrow into the circulatory system at a slower rate, on average 36 days in healthy adult males. In that study, the range was 20 to 59 days for recovery.[55] These replacement rates are the basis of how frequently a patient can give blood.

That's for GIVING blood man. We are talking about a test, it's not going to be drawn nearly enough for such a recovery time. Plus, Mayweather will also do it!
And if you want to go to ridiculous extents, since Mayweather is older, his recovery time is larger.

[fdotorres]

I don't think Pacquiao has issued an issue of validity of physical weakening and if anything it is largely psychological. Why can't we respect that?

Why can't we make arrangements of testing in terms of different timing instead of right before the fight? Pacquiao has agreed to testing around January and immediately after the fight.

THat meant he is not avoiding it, but just an issue of timing.

timing? what about the 8 months in between? that's when team cherry pick want the tests. do several blood tests randomly during the 2 month camp

what's the matter with that? it's just a needle and a teaspoon of blood, not a freaking sword

[rod_serrs]

Unless it is an official policy there are no general consensus on the requests of the Mayweather's camp/family on this one.

It isn't an excuse and it isn't mandatory. Olympic Style Testing is based on RANDOM testing, not mandatory. In this case, the Mayweathers are contradicting themselves.

They can't test you unless you consent to these tests. Just because they make it 'mandatory' in writing doesn't mean it won't be random. The random tests can't happen unless Pacquiao agrees. So in an essence it will be mandatory for the fight negotiations to continue.

[fabie]

i don't care about the cherry fighter

i'm talking about the guy i wanted to see winning. they guy with 10 tattoos, whose excuse for not doing the tests is "i'm afraid of needles"

Being afraid of needles is nothing to be ashamed of. Being afraid to fight is of another.

No one would ever accuse Pacquiao of avoiding fighters whereas that can be said of Mayweather.

I would rather be accused of being "afraid of needles"...hehehehhe

[fdotorres]

Being afraid of needles is nothing to be ashamed of. Being afraid to fight is of another.

No one would ever accuse Pacquiao of avoiding fighters whereas that can be said of Mayweather.

I would rather be accused of being "afraid of needles"...hehehehhe

so his tattoos were done by needles or by a sharpie?

he has like 10 tattoos, try to explain that

[fabie]

They can't test you unless you consent to these tests. Just because they make it 'mandatory' in writing doesn't mean it won't be random. The random tests can't happen unless Pacquiao agrees. So in an essence it will be mandatory for the fight negotiations to continue.

Pacquiao never declined to blood testing, this is an issue of timing. Pacquiao didn't want it very close to the fighting day. Why can't this be arranged?

A week before or two weeks before cannot be done?

[fdotorres]

Pacquiao never declined to blood testing, this is an issue of timing. Pacquiao didn't want it very close to the fighting day. Why can't this be arranged?

A week before or two weeks before cannot be done?

pacquiao didn't want it during training camp, when athletes usually use their stuff

that's what's weird about this

[fabie]

so his tattoos were done by needles or by a sharpie?

he has like 10 tattoos, try to explain that

I think you are dispeling the notion of the issue of psychology in boxers. What makes them click are based on their own psyche.

People are often governed by their own thinking, rituals, psyche, habits and then some. Tattooing and boxing has nothing to do with the other unless you agree to it.

The issue of phobia is based on irrational fear. So what if Pacquiao has needle phobia if that is real after all. What is the point?

The point is about fighting, not about who is brave with the needles. Many people (boxers and non-boxers alike) and great people and non-great people alike have been inspired or influenced by their own phobias.

But again, what is the point to this?

Rob Pacquiao of his greatness due to his phobia of needles? hahahahaha if anything that is irrational.

[MindBat]

You obviously don't know the difference between "random" and "mandatory". The terms are not related. "Mandatory" means "required". Athletes who choose to compete in the Olympic contests are "required" to take blood tests. Pac will only be "required" to take the tests if it is included in the contract. "Random" means the tests can be take at anytime. In other words, they are not given advance notice so athletes don't know "when" the tests are being given, which reduces their chances of cheating.

If Pac agrees to the tests, they will not receive "advance notice" of when the tests will be given. That is the sticking point. Pac wants "advance notice" of the tests. He wants to know exactly when the tests are being given. If he gets "advance notice" he will know that he should avoid using any performance enhancing substances prior to the test. The idea of the random tests is to prevent either one from cheating because they have no idea when the tests will be conducted.

Excellent clarification.

[fabie]

pacquiao didn't want it during training camp, when athletes usually use their stuff

that's what's weird about this

Again, I think you might have to check your facts first. He never declined to blood testing but only the timing VERY CLOSE TO THE FIGHTING DATE because it affects him psychologically.