On what grounds should pac have to take these drug test?

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  • VERDUGO
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    #11
    Originally posted by Adamantium
    Urine tests are a stone age way of testing for ped's, blood testing is much more accurate.
    pac agreed to blood testing...

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    • Adamantium
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      #12
      Originally posted by vErDuGo
      pac agreed to blood testing...
      I know that, I was responding to the poster who thinks that urine testing is adequate, its not. Blood testing should have been the norm in boxing for years with random testing as well. The fact that you have known users like Holyfield and Mosely caught using by agencies outside of boxing, speaks for itself.

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      • MindBat
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        #13
        Here's the answer.

        No athlete is accused of being on any PED's...

        BUT they have to ALL submit to drug testing in order to compete in their respected sports.

        WHY?

        Because some idiot, a long time ago, who thought he could get away with cheating the system ruined it for everybody.

        Isn't that usually why certain rules are implemented?

        The next answer is athletes have been busted for using PED's in the past.

        If anyone was never caught of ever cheating the system -- then it would be unfair to Manny to put him through such a protocol.

        Besides, has Manny ever been tested by the NSAC in the past?

        Is the NSAC flawed because Manny has never been caught?

        Why should he not take a different test to once-and-for-all prove he is innocent and clean, especially with so much money at stake?

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          #14
          Originally posted by MindBat
          Here's the answer.

          No athlete is accused of being on any PED's...

          BUT they have to ALL submit to drug testing in order to compete in their respected sports.

          WHY?

          Because some idiot, a long time ago, who thought he could get away with cheating the system ruined it for everybody.

          Isn't that usually why certain rules are implemented?

          The next answer is athletes have been busted for using PED's in the past.

          If anyone was never caught of ever cheating the system -- then it would be unfair to Manny to put him through such a protocol.

          Besides, has Manny ever been tested by the NSAC in the past?

          Is the NSAC flawed because Manny has never been caught?

          Why should he not take a different test to once-and-for-all prove he is innocent and clean, especially with so much money at stake?
          Why does it only apply to Manny? What about Mosley-Berto in January? Valero-DeMarco in February? Why the double standard?

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          • Adamantium
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            #15
            Originally posted by Splackavellie
            Why does it only apply to Manny? What about Mosley-Berto in January? Valero-DeMarco in February? Why the double standard?

            Its not a double standard, nothing is stopping those fighters involved in those fights to suggest the same thing. If I was Berto I would definately demand it.

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              #16
              Originally posted by MindBat
              Here's the answer.

              No athlete is accused of being on any PED's...

              BUT they have to ALL submit to drug testing in order to compete in their respected sports.

              WHY?

              Because some idiot, a long time ago, who thought he could get away with cheating the system ruined it for everybody.

              Isn't that usually why certain rules are implemented?

              The next answer is athletes have been busted for using PED's in the past.

              If anyone was never caught of ever cheating the system -- then it would be unfair to Manny to put him through such a protocol.

              Besides, has Manny ever been tested by the NSAC in the past?

              Is the NSAC flawed because Manny has never been caught?

              Why should he not take a different test to once-and-for-all prove he is innocent and clean, especially with so much money at stake?

              Pac has been tested before by the Nevada commission according to reports but Margarito also has been cleared before by the commission (They even clear and sign is glove on fight night against Mosley)...Now we have doubt if Margarito didnt load his gloves against Cotto in his biggest fight over his career.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Adamantium
                Its not a double standard, nothing is stopping those fighters involved in those fights to suggest the same thing. If I was Berto I would definately demand it.


                No stop educating people, Maybe they think Team Mayweather also represent team Berto or Valero. At the end of the day each fighter to his own if people cannot understand that then tough.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Adamantium
                  Its not a double standard, nothing is stopping those fighters involved in those fights to suggest the same thing. If I was Berto I would definately demand it.
                  So if neither fighter demands it, how can we consider the result as legitimate, in the same way that people apparently won't consider Pac's fights legitimate if he refuses to do the same?

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                  • MindBat
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Splackavellie
                    Why does it only apply to Manny? What about Mosley-Berto in January? Valero-DeMarco in February? Why the double standard?

                    First clue should be the video that counters Arum's own claim that Manny freaks out when his blood is drawn. Do you believe that?

                    The evidence refuting that claim should be enough to have people wondering why Manny is "scared of needles".

                    Second, it applies to Floyd as well. Not only to Manny.

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                    • DontHitMyNuts
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Adamantium
                      Urine tests are a stone age way of testing for ped's, blood testing is much more accurate.
                      this is such an un-educated statement from your typical internet "expert"

                      everything, including byproducts / drug isoforms passes by the liver and the kidneys and that is the basis why urine tests are used and regarded highly.

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