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  • #81
    i agree with certain posters that mayweather is a less aggressive better defensive bigger stronger more talenter version of marquez

    pacaquio had most success when marquez decided to brawl and fight back, floyd wont do this he will be patient and counter and pick pacman a part

    thats my view anyway i cant ****ing wait for it!!!!

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    • #82
      I also agree with Ariza.

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      • #83
        This fight is going to come down to who will fight who fight. If Floyd
        stays in a defensive counter puncher stance, Manny is going to get
        beat down because as I watched Manny so many times, his speed
        becomes a factor when his opponents try to pressure and muscle
        him leaving themselves open to be dominated by his speed. Floyd
        is just different. Manny has problems with boxers, I've been wrong about
        Manny 3 times because I didn't think he was capable of moving up
        and dominating bigger guys and he did, more power and respect to him
        BUT Floyd is a different fighter all together. Pacquiao is way to wild
        for someone as accurate and patient as Floyd. Should be a great
        fight but got Floyd on this one and sure this time I won't be wrong.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by mrbigshot View Post
          i agree with certain posters that mayweather is a less aggressive better defensive bigger stronger more talenter version of marquez

          pacaquio had most success when marquez decided to brawl and fight back, floyd wont do this he will be patient and counter and pick pacman a part

          thats my view anyway i cant ****ing wait for it!!!!
          That's exactly why he lost, eventhough it was not by
          much but he still subjected himself to the KD's because
          he didn't want to stay patient, rather decided to brawl
          because he wanted his nuts to hang out with Pacquiao
          but Manny was the bigger puncher. Manny to me has the
          best offensive arsenal and there is no way an opponent
          can out gun him but counter punching and patience is
          his Kryptonite.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            This fight is going to come down to who will fight who fight. If Floyd
            stays in a defensive counter puncher stance, Manny is going to get
            beat down because as I watched Manny so many times, his speed
            becomes a factor when his opponents try to pressure and muscle
            him leaving themselves open to be dominated by his speed. Floyd
            is just different. Manny has problems with boxers, I've been wrong about
            Manny 3 times because I didn't think he was capable of moving up
            and dominating bigger guys and he did, more power and respect to him
            BUT Floyd is a different fighter all together. Pacquiao is way to wild
            for someone as accurate and patient as Floyd. Should be a great
            fight but got Floyd on this one and sure this time I won't be wrong.


            you'll be wrong again for the 4th time about manny......atleast youre consistent.....lol

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            • #86
              right....

              Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post
              Yeah,I didn't say Floyd lost.
              I said he get exposed at some moments of these fights,he looked easy to hit early in the fight,then Floyd adjusted and beat them,but it's ****in chop chop and Zab Chicken Dance that we are talkin about.
              Both Corley and judah aren't top class,being southpaw and athletic seems to be enough to give Floyd troubles.

              Problem,Manny won't gas out or ***** out,Floyd he will have tobe early in te fightor he will have a lot of issues.
              What are you talking about? Zab was considered the next Pernell Whitaker until his meltdown against Kosta. Then he bounced back and became Undisputed welterweight champ. Had he stayed focused on Baldomir instead of already looking forward to Mayweather (hence they both already signed the contract to fight pre-Baldomir) you wouldn't be bashing him.

              Corley has always been competitive at '40, at the time he fought Mayweather he was in the top 10 and if I believe that was PBF's first fight at '40 and against a good southpaw. Cotto was rocked by Corley as well but nobody turned suspect of Cotto.

              Floyd is going to pick Pacquiao apart for the simple fact that Pac only knows one speed; move forward, throw, move back.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post
                Well,when Pac fought Barrera,Barrera was on top of most P4P lists,and Barrera get koed.
                I think JMM get a gift draw,being dropped 3 times in the first fight,and Manny a gift decision in the second fight.

                Manny at least beat two top class P4P fighters.

                MAYWEATHER NEVER FOUGHT A TOP CLASS FIGHTER IN HIS PRIME,OR AT HIS OWN WEIGHT.

                May vs Marquez was a marketing event,a joke.PROPAGANDA.

                Judah is a joke,Hatton,Baldomir are joke,Oscar wasn't P4P anymore but a looser,Coralles RIP and Castillo were good but who they had beaten except themselves??

                Yall talk like Manny is untested,BUT,how Mayweather is really tested??

                Cotto tested Manny at 147,Cotto get ruined in every departments.PERIOD.
                Yall think it's goin to look like a PBF vs Gatti,or Hatton vs PBF.
                ERRRRR
                WAKE UP.
                IT AIN'T HAPPENING.

                Instead of bitchin about REAL FIGHTERS with those Manny struggled,YALL SHOULD WORRY ABOUT HOW PBF LOOKED AGAINST SOUTHPAWS CORLEY AND JUDAH.

                Corley is was good but sloppy,Judah is talented but a *****(no heart,gas out) with a ******ed trainer/father.And Floyd went to hell with both.

                Problem,Manny ain't sloppy or a *****.He will be here,and Mr.Boat Buyer is goin to be in a tough one.MIDGET OR NOT.

                Yall PBF nutthuggers sleepin on the Cotto win,Cotto ruined Zab,and Cotto could do nothing against Pac.
                Doesn't mean Manny beat Floyd,just that Manny brings more on the table than Judah and Corley.Cotto would cosign.

                Has to be one of the most ignorant posts I've read. This kid just started watching boxing in 2008.

                JMM gift draw?
                Pacquiao getting a gift decision counts as beating a world class fighter? A bit of a contradiction yeah?

                Okay So Hatton wasn't in his prime when he fought Mayweather, he was just undefeated and being pushed as much as possible to be the guy to beat Floyd.

                Oscar was an old loser when Floyd beat him but he was an immortal when Manny beat him.

                Corrales was only 30-0 with 25 KO's when he was stopped by PBF.

                Castillo had beaten Stevie Johnston (and defended a few times) and was reigning at '35 when PBF moved up and beat him but somehow he was magically washed up when that happened.

                Zab Judah was undisputed '47 champ a fight before PBF and somehow he's a bum???

                Billy your silly man.
                Last edited by deejd; 12-22-2009, 07:57 AM.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Easy Work View Post

                  Man dont you know that styles make fights......this is what Pacquiao was able to do against the last right handed counter puncher he faced.....



                  Pacquiao-Marquez 1

                  Total Punches

                  Manny landed 148 of 639 total punches

                  Marquez landed 158 of 547 total punches

                  Power Punches


                  Manny landed 100 of 231

                  Marquez landed 122 of 339



                  Pacquiao-Marquez 2

                  Total Punches


                  Manny landed 157 of 619 total punches

                  Marquez landed 172 of 511 total punches

                  Power Punches


                  Manny landed 114 of 305

                  Marquez landed 130 of 310


                  from the looks of those punch stats, it didn't seem like Pacquiao's super high work rate caused Marquez much trouble why would it cause Mayweather trouble?.....

                  Will Manny's work rate really be the deciding factor in this fight?
                  This is knowledge not some of the kisass bs on this thread. Mayweather will outland Pacquiao even if Pac throws 100 punches every round. The question will be by how much and will he be able to make Pac look silly if not hurt him. Everyone that is saying that Pac's gonna break down Money really hasn't payed attention to Mayweather's career. The best punches landed against him have actually been counterpunches, (Judah,Corley). Throwing a lot of punches just means more openings to get hit and that's what Money wants. Also did I see someone questiong Floyd's accuracy that's absolutely foolish he is the most instinctive, accurate boxer I have ever seen I'm 26 so not too long but Pac is not in the same league. Pac is very accurate against the right styles or after he hurts fighters.

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                  • #89
                    can Mayweather cope with the volume of punches that is the key or the one's that land.

                    plus Mayweather's chin has never truly been tested.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Blairhoyle792 View Post
                      can Mayweather cope with the volume of punches that is the key or the one's that land.

                      plus Mayweather's chin has never truly been tested.
                      Wrong, read above.

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