PacMans power and the ability he has to throw punches from all angles are goin to be too much for floyd!!! JMM is nothin like pacman and he was able to go the distance...floyd fights for money! PacMan fights for his country!!! Viva Mexico putos!!!
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Originally posted by spinika7 View PostFloyd dominated both Judah and Corley. I have to question wether you have even watched these fights. Corley caught him with one good punch after which floyd won every round and punished him for having the temerity to do so.
Judah won 3 of the first 4 rds, then lost every round thereafter. He was getting punished slowly in that fight. Hitting another boxer low deliberately, then following with a punch to the back of the head to escape the punishment being dealt out are not the actions of a fighter who is in a competitive fight, a fight they have a chance of winning.
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Originally posted by daggum View Posti have to question have you? judah clearly won the 12th round as well since floyd didn't do anything and just played safety first to wrap up the win. also forgot to mention how he knocked floyd down. oh he stepped on his foot cept he didn't.Last edited by deliveryman; 12-22-2009, 02:51 AM.
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Originally posted by daggum View Posti have to question have you? judah clearly won the 12th round as well since floyd didn't do anything and just played safety first to wrap up the win. also forgot to mention how he knocked floyd down. oh he stepped on his foot cept he didn't.
Yes he did get knocked down. I'm not arguing that point at all. The glove clearly touched the canvas. Ref didn't see it though did he?? Regardless even if Zab did get a 10-8 for that round and the 12th he still lost on all cards EASILY. Also its unlikely he would get 10-8 for the rd anyway. If a knockdown is considered insignificant by a judge it is not 100% mandated that it be a 10-8, judge can still give a 10-9.
I'm just rebutting your points regarding Corley and Judah, neither of whom got even close to taking Floyd to "hell."
Your other point is well taken though. Floyd does indeed take longer to adjust to a southpaw style.
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Originally posted by HattonFaithful View Posti dont know about that ariza PBF is a defensive master and pac has shown that he has trouble with good counter punchers (marquez) and PBF handled marquez with ease...but then again pac handled DLH and Hatton with ease while PBF escaped with a SD over DLH and a harder but deserved KO of Hatton either way i personally look at it is this is the fight of the century cant wait for it...i really hope no drama unfolds to through this fight off track
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What people have to understand is pacman isnt a pressure fighter within the make of a castillo, or a chavez or a margarito, no. His pressure comes from combinations, 4 or 5 punches. But the thing is, that has to be setup. Pac can be hurt by accuracy, marquez showed that. Against guys like mayweather, youre accuracy and youre workrate is cut in half, you are dealing with quickness, pressure has always been the gameplan against floyd and its hardly ever effective in the long term. To beat mayweather if you are pac you are going to rely on combination punching, but also, i know nobody cares about this point, but i seriously need to see how pac reacts to mayweathers accuracy, because every fighter backs off mayweather at some point in the fight after dealing with what he dishes. If pac is all of the sudden gunshy to engage, itll be a problem. Mayweather isnt going to stand there and take a beating like everyone thinks.
The biggest issue i have with pac is that he has yet to show he can effectively cut off the ring. against a guy who has a longer reach and can match his QUICKNESS, not speed, but QUICKNESS, he has to show that he can apply pressure to someone not standing around trading.
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Originally posted by spinika7 View PostYes he did get knocked down. I'm not arguing that point at all. The glove clearly touched the canvas. Ref didn't see it though did he?? Regardless even if Zab did get a 10-8 for that round and the 12th he still lost on all cards EASILY. Also its unlikely he would get 10-8 for the rd anyway. If a knockdown is considered insignificant by a judge it is not 100% mandated that it be a 10-8, judge can still give a 10-9.
I'm just rebutting your points regarding Corley and Judah, neither of whom got even close to taking Floyd to "hell."
Your other point is well taken though. Floyd does indeed take longer to adjust to a southpaw style.
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Originally posted by Catrin View PostPacMans power and the ability he has to throw punches from all angles are goin to be too much for floyd!!! JMM is nothin like pacman and he was able to go the distance...floyd fights for money! PacMan fights for his country!!! Viva Mexico putos!!!
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Originally posted by El Jesus View PostWhat people have to understand is pacman isnt a pressure fighter within the make of a castillo, or a chavez or a margarito, no. His pressure comes from combinations, 4 or 5 punches. But the thing is, that has to be setup. Pac can be hurt by accuracy, marquez showed that. Against guys like mayweather, youre accuracy and youre workrate is cut in half, you are dealing with quickness, pressure has always been the gameplan against floyd and its hardly ever effective in the long term. To beat mayweather if you are pac you are going to rely on combination punching, but also, i know nobody cares about this point, but i seriously need to see how pac reacts to mayweathers accuracy, because every fighter backs off mayweather at some point in the fight after dealing with what he dishes. If pac is all of the sudden gunshy to engage, itll be a problem. Mayweather isnt going to stand there and take a beating like everyone thinks.
The biggest issue i have with pac is that he has yet to show he can effectively cut off the ring. against a guy who has a longer reach and can match his QUICKNESS, not speed, but QUICKNESS, he has to show that he can apply pressure to someone not standing around trading.
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Originally posted by El Jesus View PostWhat people have to understand is pacman isnt a pressure fighter within the make of a castillo, or a chavez or a margarito, no. His pressure comes from combinations, 4 or 5 punches. But the thing is, that has to be setup. Pac can be hurt by accuracy, marquez showed that. Against guys like mayweather, youre accuracy and youre workrate is cut in half, you are dealing with quickness, pressure has always been the gameplan against floyd and its hardly ever effective in the long term. To beat mayweather if you are pac you are going to rely on combination punching, but also, i know nobody cares about this point, but i seriously need to see how pac reacts to mayweathers accuracy, because every fighter backs off mayweather at some point in the fight after dealing with what he dishes. If pac is all of the sudden gunshy to engage, itll be a problem. Mayweather isnt going to stand there and take a beating like everyone thinks.
The biggest issue i have with pac is that he has yet to show he can effectively cut off the ring. against a guy who has a longer reach and can match his QUICKNESS, not speed, but QUICKNESS, he has to show that he can apply pressure to someone not standing around trading.
couldn't have said it better.
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