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Originally posted by lcheezy View Postpure crap!this is easy work for the real p4p king floyd money mayweather and a huge payday for both of them.i like both fighters. pac is a action fighter and mayweather's complete sweet science of total boxing.but this article is pure crap. again easy work for floyd and a huge payday for both.
Floyd on the other hand fought little Marquez who all boxing fans know DID NOT belong north of 135. That was a given for Floyd.
Look at the level of competition of both fighters in the last 3 years. Pac beats Floyd in that department and lets not forget the 1year and half lay off. That is really going to affect Floyd.
Floyd is going to overwhelmed and confused possibly even frustrated when realizes Pac is just a BEAST...
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I think both fighters are gonna surprise each other, just when i think floyd can win i see manny winning, just when i think manny can win i see floyd winning.
The beauty of this fight is its a toss up, if you set aside the hate of the boxer and just be a fan of boxing you can see it too. Predictions is cool to make, but i find it diffcult to make one when you a have boxer like Manny, a boxer with crazy speed and power, Good footwork, determination and heart. And you have Floyd, a smart boxer with A HIGH boxing IQ, Speed, Great Defense, Ring General,and the ability to Adapt....
You put all that in one ring, and you have a Fight!!! AWWW man i cant wait!!!!
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I've heard this before. They said Jose Luis Castillo would have too much pressure and power, Zab Judah would be too slick and fast, Carlos Baldomir would be too big, Oscar De La Hoya (who was trained by Roach) would be all around better, bigger and over all too much for him and Ricky Hatton's power and pressure was supposed to stop him too..... its the same thing.
We all know Pac is not any of the names above but either was any of the names above UNTIL they got in the ring. The list will continue. Its just like Mayweather explains, before the fight they are picked to be the man to beat him. Once its over they people tend to forget and pretend like it was supposed to happened that way and the other guy never had a chance, JMM for example.
That was a joke in itself to the people that thought he had any chance at any weight agasint Mayweather. If Pac and JMM fought again people would see that Pac would win but struggle doing it....
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yall pinoys in for a rough fight....
Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Postyall pinoys in for a rough fight, pac has literraly 0 advantages in this fight none zip especially stylewise hes lost to rt handed counter-punchers before and the 1st rnd of the cotto proves he still susceptible to that style, plus on top of that footspeed and handspeed of the likes which hes never seen,and superior accuracy and reach???no no no ur boy is in trouble if your convinced pac tales this youve not been around the sport very long probably only started watching it when pacyow started fighting jusst like most other pacfans, their boxing knowledge begins with and ends with pac ,pac pac and pac.
tignan na lang natin sa ring kung sino talaga magaling...
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Originally posted by COACH WEBB View PostI'm willing to guarantee that Pac's punch output will not be all that high in this fight. Also, if they are banking on his workrate to win, that actually plays right into Floyd's hands with him being a great counterpuncher. The more shots Manny throws, the easier he will be hit with counter right hands and left hooks.
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Originally posted by WESS View PostI've heard this before. They said Jose Luis Castillo would have too much pressure and power
Originally posted by WESS View PostZab Judah would be too slick and fast
Originally posted by WESS View PostCarlos Baldomir would be too big
Originally posted by WESS View PostOscar De La Hoya (who was trained by Roach) would be all around better, bigger and over all too much for him
Originally posted by WESS View Postand Ricky Hatton's power and pressure was supposed to stop him too..... its the same thing.
Originally posted by WESS View PostWe all know Pac is not any of the names above but either was any of the names above UNTIL they got in the ring.
After the manner of the Cotto win, which was completely one-sided, I think it would be delusional to say that Pac doesn't have any chance against Floyd. Personally I've got Mayweather as the narrow favourite, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Pac shakes up the world again. I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd wins either, and of course Floyd is a much tougher proposition for Pac than Cotto, as Pac's team have always acknowledged. Whoever wins, I'm sure it'll be a fantastic fight, though.Last edited by Dave Rado; 12-22-2009, 10:13 AM.
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Originally posted by Lady Fan View PostThis is true. I believe that the fistic bombardments Pretty Boy will sustain in this fight will definitely Break Him Down. It just a question if he will be able to go the distance or be stopped ala Cottoesque fashion. JAT
Mayweather flourishes against people coming forward- aren't you the same person who bases their fan love of Manny based on similar nationality?
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Originally posted by Dave Rado View PostMayweather was the narrow favourite going in; in their first fight, many thought Castillo deserved the decision; and even the second was close until the last couple of rounds.
Mayweather was the overwhelming favourite in that fight.
Mayweather was the overwhelming favourite in that fight.
Mayweather was the narrow favourite in that fight; Oscar was past his prime and had become a part time fighter; and it was close - Oscar was ahead at the half way point.
Mayweather was the overwhelming favourite in that fight.
But we also all know that nearly everyone under-estimated Pac before all of his last four fights, including both of us. We both picked Cotto to beat him; and although I said I wouldn't be surprised if Pac beat Cotto, and that I thought Cotto should only be the narrow favourite, you said Cotto would win easily.
Pacquiao was favored against Cotto, Hatton, and Diaz. How was he underestimated?
After the manner of the Cotto win, which was completely one-sided, I think it would be delusional to say that Pac doesn't have any chance against Floyd. Personally I've got Mayweather as the narrow favourite, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Pac shakes up the world again. I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd wins either, and of course Floyd is a much tougher proposition for Pac than Cotto, as Pac's team have always acknowledged. Whoever wins, I'm sure it'll be a fantastic fight, though.
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Originally posted by Dave Rado View PostMayweather was the narrow favourite going in; in their first fight, many thought Castillo deserved the decision; and even the second was close until the last couple of rounds.
Mayweather was the overwhelming favourite in that fight.
Mayweather was the overwhelming favourite in that fight.
Mayweather was the narrow favourite in that fight; Oscar was past his prime and had become a part time fighter; and it was close - Oscar was ahead at the half way point.
Mayweather was the overwhelming favourite in that fight.
But we also all know that nearly everyone under-estimated Pac before all of his last four fights, including both of us. We both picked Cotto to beat him; and although I said I wouldn't be surprised if Pac beat Cotto, and that I thought Cotto should only be the narrow favourite, you said Cotto would win easily.
After the manner of the Cotto win, which was completely one-sided, I think it would be delusional to say that Pac doesn't have any chance against Floyd. Personally I've got Mayweather as the narrow favourite, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Pac shakes up the world again. I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd wins either, and of course Floyd is a much tougher proposition for Pac than Cotto, as Pac's team have always acknowledged. Whoever wins, I'm sure it'll be a fantastic fight, though.
I wouldnt be surprised if Mayweather is the favorite to win. You are correct we both were wrong when picking Cotto. More so myself because I pretty much said it would be easy. But that was basing on different factors. Mayweatghers style is something compleyetly different than that of Cotto. I assumed Cotto was too big and strong and that if they DID get into a brawl power would be in favor of Cotto.
Picking Mayweather is all based on skill and ring smarts. Pac is great but not Mayweather great. Pac's style is perfect for Mayweather. Cotto's style was perfect for the fans. He stands there toe to toe, which makes it exciting.
As far as being the overwhelming favourite. Thats most of Mayweather's career. Pac's just now becoming that overwhelming favourite in every fight due to his improving skills.
Im not saying either guy wins easy but I am saying the more Pac throws the better it is for a technical boxer like Mayweather. The less Pac throws just makes its an easier night for Mayweather. The only problem Mayweather will have will be the southpaw power. Speed and agression wont be especially if he cant hit or hurt Mayweather from the start. Mayweather turns this into a boxing clinic which will be borning to a casual or MMA fan.
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