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  • ME2
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    #111
    Originally posted by MindBat
    If Manny doesn't gas himself out going all out for the full 12, I think he might have a chance.
    Trust me he's not gonna gas out, i think they both have a chance tho...

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    • trainhard_187
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      #112
      Originally posted by lcheezy
      pure crap!this is easy work for the real p4p king floyd money mayweather and a huge payday for both of them.i like both fighters. pac is a action fighter and mayweather's complete sweet science of total boxing.but this article is pure crap. again easy work for floyd and a huge payday for both.
      Your smoking crack to even mention this is easy work. Pac is a beast and no way Floyd KO's him. Pac gobbled Cottos punches and beat him legally.

      Floyd on the other hand fought little Marquez who all boxing fans know DID NOT belong north of 135. That was a given for Floyd.

      Look at the level of competition of both fighters in the last 3 years. Pac beats Floyd in that department and lets not forget the 1year and half lay off. That is really going to affect Floyd.

      Floyd is going to overwhelmed and confused possibly even frustrated when realizes Pac is just a BEAST...

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      • ME2
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        #113
        I think both fighters are gonna surprise each other, just when i think floyd can win i see manny winning, just when i think manny can win i see floyd winning.

        The beauty of this fight is its a toss up, if you set aside the hate of the boxer and just be a fan of boxing you can see it too. Predictions is cool to make, but i find it diffcult to make one when you a have boxer like Manny, a boxer with crazy speed and power, Good footwork, determination and heart. And you have Floyd, a smart boxer with A HIGH boxing IQ, Speed, Great Defense, Ring General,and the ability to Adapt....

        You put all that in one ring, and you have a Fight!!! AWWW man i cant wait!!!!
        Last edited by ME2; 12-22-2009, 09:33 AM. Reason: typo

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        • WESS
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          #114
          I've heard this before. They said Jose Luis Castillo would have too much pressure and power, Zab Judah would be too slick and fast, Carlos Baldomir would be too big, Oscar De La Hoya (who was trained by Roach) would be all around better, bigger and over all too much for him and Ricky Hatton's power and pressure was supposed to stop him too..... its the same thing.

          We all know Pac is not any of the names above but either was any of the names above UNTIL they got in the ring. The list will continue. Its just like Mayweather explains, before the fight they are picked to be the man to beat him. Once its over they people tend to forget and pretend like it was supposed to happened that way and the other guy never had a chance, JMM for example.

          That was a joke in itself to the people that thought he had any chance at any weight agasint Mayweather. If Pac and JMM fought again people would see that Pac would win but struggle doing it....

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            #115
            yall pinoys in for a rough fight....

            Originally posted by boxingfan76
            yall pinoys in for a rough fight, pac has literraly 0 advantages in this fight none zip especially stylewise hes lost to rt handed counter-punchers before and the 1st rnd of the cotto proves he still susceptible to that style, plus on top of that footspeed and handspeed of the likes which hes never seen,and superior accuracy and reach???no no no ur boy is in trouble if your convinced pac tales this youve not been around the sport very long probably only started watching it when pacyow started fighting jusst like most other pacfans, their boxing knowledge begins with and ends with pac ,pac pac and pac.


            tignan na lang natin sa ring kung sino talaga magaling...

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            • WESS
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              #116
              Originally posted by COACH WEBB
              I'm willing to guarantee that Pac's punch output will not be all that high in this fight. Also, if they are banking on his workrate to win, that actually plays right into Floyd's hands with him being a great counterpuncher. The more shots Manny throws, the easier he will be hit with counter right hands and left hooks.
              That will be the irony of it all. Pac's style is perfect for a counter defenssive fighter like Mayweather. Pac's workrate will be of no concern. Its the southpaw power that Mayweather is looking at. Not work rate. Anyone that thinks otherwise is pretty much wrong. Mayweather win or lose outworks Pac just as JMM did twice and a thrid time if they fought again.

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              • Dave Rado
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                #117
                Originally posted by WESS
                I've heard this before. They said Jose Luis Castillo would have too much pressure and power
                Mayweather was the narrow favourite going in; in their first fight, many thought Castillo deserved the decision; and even the second was close until the last couple of rounds.

                Originally posted by WESS
                Zab Judah would be too slick and fast
                Mayweather was the overwhelming favourite in that fight.

                Originally posted by WESS
                Carlos Baldomir would be too big
                Mayweather was the overwhelming favourite in that fight.

                Originally posted by WESS
                Oscar De La Hoya (who was trained by Roach) would be all around better, bigger and over all too much for him
                Mayweather was the narrow favourite in that fight; Oscar was past his prime and had become a part time fighter; and it was close - Oscar was ahead at the half way point.

                Originally posted by WESS
                and Ricky Hatton's power and pressure was supposed to stop him too..... its the same thing.
                Mayweather was the overwhelming favourite in that fight.

                Originally posted by WESS
                We all know Pac is not any of the names above but either was any of the names above UNTIL they got in the ring.
                But we also all know that nearly everyone under-estimated Pac before all of his last three fights, including both of us. We both picked Cotto to beat him; and although I said I wouldn't be surprised if Pac beat Cotto, and that I thought Cotto should only be the narrow favourite, you said Cotto would win easily.

                After the manner of the Cotto win, which was completely one-sided, I think it would be delusional to say that Pac doesn't have any chance against Floyd. Personally I've got Mayweather as the narrow favourite, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Pac shakes up the world again. I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd wins either, and of course Floyd is a much tougher proposition for Pac than Cotto, as Pac's team have always acknowledged. Whoever wins, I'm sure it'll be a fantastic fight, though.
                Last edited by Dave Rado; 12-22-2009, 10:13 AM.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Lady Fan
                  This is true. I believe that the fistic bombardments Pretty Boy will sustain in this fight will definitely Break Him Down. It just a question if he will be able to go the distance or be stopped ala Cottoesque fashion. JAT



                  can you quit saying "fistic bombardments", I have heard you say this so many times that I am literally blushing for you.
                  Mayweather flourishes against people coming forward- aren't you the same person who bases their fan love of Manny based on similar nationality?

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Dave Rado
                    Mayweather was the narrow favourite going in; in their first fight, many thought Castillo deserved the decision; and even the second was close until the last couple of rounds.



                    Mayweather was the overwhelming favourite in that fight.



                    Mayweather was the overwhelming favourite in that fight.



                    Mayweather was the narrow favourite in that fight; Oscar was past his prime and had become a part time fighter; and it was close - Oscar was ahead at the half way point.



                    Mayweather was the overwhelming favourite in that fight.



                    But we also all know that nearly everyone under-estimated Pac before all of his last four fights, including both of us. We both picked Cotto to beat him; and although I said I wouldn't be surprised if Pac beat Cotto, and that I thought Cotto should only be the narrow favourite, you said Cotto would win easily.


                    Pacquiao was favored against Cotto, Hatton, and Diaz. How was he underestimated?

                    After the manner of the Cotto win, which was completely one-sided, I think it would be delusional to say that Pac doesn't have any chance against Floyd. Personally I've got Mayweather as the narrow favourite, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Pac shakes up the world again. I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd wins either, and of course Floyd is a much tougher proposition for Pac than Cotto, as Pac's team have always acknowledged. Whoever wins, I'm sure it'll be a fantastic fight, though.
                    Mayweathers fights with Oscar and the rematch with Castillo were not that close if you look at it objectively. Let's be truthful now.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Dave Rado
                      Mayweather was the narrow favourite going in; in their first fight, many thought Castillo deserved the decision; and even the second was close until the last couple of rounds.



                      Mayweather was the overwhelming favourite in that fight.



                      Mayweather was the overwhelming favourite in that fight.



                      Mayweather was the narrow favourite in that fight; Oscar was past his prime and had become a part time fighter; and it was close - Oscar was ahead at the half way point.



                      Mayweather was the overwhelming favourite in that fight.



                      But we also all know that nearly everyone under-estimated Pac before all of his last four fights, including both of us. We both picked Cotto to beat him; and although I said I wouldn't be surprised if Pac beat Cotto, and that I thought Cotto should only be the narrow favourite, you said Cotto would win easily.

                      After the manner of the Cotto win, which was completely one-sided, I think it would be delusional to say that Pac doesn't have any chance against Floyd. Personally I've got Mayweather as the narrow favourite, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Pac shakes up the world again. I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd wins either, and of course Floyd is a much tougher proposition for Pac than Cotto, as Pac's team have always acknowledged. Whoever wins, I'm sure it'll be a fantastic fight, though.
                      What does being the overwhelming favourite have to do with it? Mayweather's the overwhelming favourite in all of his fights. Just as Pac has become recently. It means your damn good.

                      I wouldnt be surprised if Mayweather is the favorite to win. You are correct we both were wrong when picking Cotto. More so myself because I pretty much said it would be easy. But that was basing on different factors. Mayweatghers style is something compleyetly different than that of Cotto. I assumed Cotto was too big and strong and that if they DID get into a brawl power would be in favor of Cotto.

                      Picking Mayweather is all based on skill and ring smarts. Pac is great but not Mayweather great. Pac's style is perfect for Mayweather. Cotto's style was perfect for the fans. He stands there toe to toe, which makes it exciting.

                      As far as being the overwhelming favourite. Thats most of Mayweather's career. Pac's just now becoming that overwhelming favourite in every fight due to his improving skills.

                      Im not saying either guy wins easy but I am saying the more Pac throws the better it is for a technical boxer like Mayweather. The less Pac throws just makes its an easier night for Mayweather. The only problem Mayweather will have will be the southpaw power. Speed and agression wont be especially if he cant hit or hurt Mayweather from the start. Mayweather turns this into a boxing clinic which will be borning to a casual or MMA fan.

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