We all do acknowledge that Pac is not physically a WW right?

[Zarco]

how was he bigger thasn cotto?....

yea i thought so, if not, then he did not look any smaller than cotto, and cotto is a welterweight so pac is a welterweight.

[r.burgundy]

But rather an extremely good LW who is for several reasons is able to compete at the top tier of the WW division and maybe even be the best there. As he does come in on fight nights at the highest weights of about 148-149 the same as he and David Diaz did for their LW fights which is very typical of the division and overnight gains like this are just typical of boxing in general.
I am not really saying it means anything or should have any bearing on the results of the super fight in March. I just want to get an understanding of how many ppl acknowledge this and how many ppl think that some how he "got bigger" in his late 20's and over age 30.

no,we dont agree.if you are over 140,then you are a welter.plain an simple.

how many healthy 30 yr olds you see walking around at 106 lbs?of course you gain weight as you age,or do you think pac can still make 122?dude walks around in his 140's and has some huge ass calf muscles.he's not a small guy.he had to make weight against cotto

[GoogleMe]

They came from about the same weightclass and moved up. Come on stop it with the excuses, let's see what happens and give props to the winner.

[DLT]

pac came in at 129 at weigh in vs em, i dont think he gained 18 lbs in one night...i dont even think he can... i think you my friend is lyin!

Trust me man, you know I dont lie. I have the fights on tape and I always point it out. Thats why I always told people that Pac wouldnt have no problem moving up because he was already a big guy. Just rewatch the 2nd EM fight. EM is a big guy. He's always been known for being one of the bigger little guys yet Pac made him look like a little boy physicaly. Why do you think he went straight through him and why do you think EM quit? He couldnt believe it. Pac looked and felt like a WW or a jr. WW in the ring

[baracuda]

he put on something similar for marquez 2 fight.

he ooutweighed jmm by 3 lbs at fightnight in one of the fight i think, and that pac was not 147......

[Spray_resistant]

no,we dont agree.if you are over 140,then you are a welter.plain an simple.

how many healthy 30 yr olds you see walking around at 106 lbs?of course you gain weight as you age,or do you think pac can still make 122?dude walks around in his 140's and has some huge ass calf muscles.he's not a small guy.he had to make weight against cotto

He is smaller than Ali Funeka and has never in a fight weighed more than him......is Funeka a legit WW or JMW even then?

[baracuda]

Trust me man, you know I dont lie. I have the fights on tape and I always point it out. Thats why I always told people that Pac wouldnt have no problem moving up because he was already a big guy. Just rewatch the 2nd EM fight. EM is a big guy. He's always been known for being one of the bigger little guys yet Pac made him look like a little boy physicaly. Why do you think he went straight through him and why do you think EM quit? He couldnt believe it. Pac looked and felt like a WW or a jr. WW in the ring

proof or its bull****.......pac gaining 18 lbs in one night?......i dont think so...

[DLT]

proof or its bull****.......pac gaining 18 lbs in one night?......i dont think so...

dude, just read even what die hard Pac fans say. They even say that people shouldnt think Pac uses steroids because he's been weighing this much even when he was at SFW. They also try to say that he struggled in the JMM rematch because he was weight drained. Even they know his weight

[Spray_resistant]

Before retirment Floyd was coming into the ring at 146 so was he not a real WW? I remember seeing Floyd being outweighed by Baldy by 20 pounds in the ring when he was 146 and Baldy was 165 and around the same time Pac was fighting EM at SFW and coming into the ring at 147 pounds so what are you saying? You cant have it both ways on everything. If he's not a real WW then he was picking on little guys at SFW. If he's not a real WW then neither was Floyd. I also think he was 150 against Cotto

Pac had never in the ring looked to be 155-160lbs......Floyd moved up when he was slightly younger and has fully matured as a 160lb man typical for WWs. Pac is still walking around that 10lbs less than him.

[shade darkar]

He is smaller than Ali Funeka and has never in a fight weighed more than him......is Funeka a legit WW or JMW even then?

it doesnt really matter when you are as good as pac anyway. he has got the tools to fight at WW so why not fight at WW. he is big enough. same with mike tyson. he was 5 11, and paul williams is 6 2, so does that mean tyson should be a junior middleweight or williams should be a heavyweight?!!!