We all do acknowledge that Pac is not physically a WW right?

[baracuda]

dude, just read even what die hard Pac fans say. They even say that people shouldnt think Pac uses steroids because he's been weighing this much even when he was at SFW. They also try to say that he struggled in the JMM rematch because he was weight drained. Even they know his weight

people always lie in nsb.....you know why you still has'nt provided proof?.....because you are lyin.....

[DLT]

Pac had never in the ring looked to be 155-160lbs......Floyd moved up when he was slightly younger and has fully matured as a 160lb man typical for WWs. Pac is still walking around that 10lbs less than him.

says who? Manny Steward has been around boxing forever, is a huge Floyd hater, and he said live on HBO that he thought Floyd was 152 in the ring. Nacho is a legend, has also been around boxing forever, has every reason to lie to make JMM look good, and even he said that he thought Floyd was 152. I keep telling people that he looked super huge because he is dark skin, because JMM is smaller, and because Floyd use to weigh 146 so even 6 or 7 pounds will make you look alot bigger in boxing, e****ally standing next to a smaller guy. Floyd moved up a while ago but he never had to move up. He was small at every weight he's been at since he left SFW but always quickly moved up to chase the big money Oscar fight. He was 136 at SFW, 138 at LW, 143 at SLW, and 146 at WW. I always use to say that not only is he P4P the best but P4P the smallest but no one cares. They only look at what you weigh in as. Now that he looked bigger against JMM, everyone starts talking about his weight for the 1st time, yet when he was super small no one cared

[DLT]

people always lie in nsb.....you know why you still has'nt provided proof?.....because you are lyin.....

Its because I dont feel like lookin. If I find it then Ill post it for you but since you want so much proof, dont try to downplay it when you see the truth since it sounds so shocking to you

[Spray_resistant]

it doesnt really matter when you are as good as pac anyway. he has got the tools to fight at WW so why not fight at WW. he is big enough. same with mike tyson. he was 5 11, and paul williams is 6 2, so does that mean tyson should be a junior middleweight or williams should be a heavyweight?!!!

I never said anything about height I am talking about natural walk around weight for the most part. I know many disagree with this but I could careless about weigh ins and am more concerned about natural walk around weight.

With that said if Pac fought Valero for Ex. I think there is nothing wrong with that as they are both roughly the same size with Pac maybe having about 3lbs or so on him.

[baracuda]

They came from about the same weightclass and moved up. Come on stop it with the excuses, let's see what happens and give props to the winner.

they did'nt come from the same weightclass in the pros......pac's a flyweight at 21 while floyd was at 130......

[Syf]

says who? Manny Steward has been around boxing forever, is a huge Floyd hater, and he said live on HBO that he thought Floyd was 152 in the ring. Nacho is a legend, has also been around boxing forever, has every reason to lie to make JMM look good, and even he said that he thought Floyd was 152. I keep telling people that he looked super huge because he is dark skin, because JMM is smaller, and because Floyd use to weigh 146 so even 6 or 7 pounds will make you look alot bigger in boxing, e****ally standing next to a smaller guy. Floyd moved up a while ago but he never had to move up. He was small at every weight he's been at since he left SFW but always quickly moved up to chase the big money Oscar fight. He was 136 at SFW, 138 at LW, 143 at SLW, and 146 at WW. I always use to say that not only is he P4P the best but P4P the smallest but no one cares. They only look at what you weigh in as. Now that he looked bigger against JMM, everyone starts talking about his weight for the 1st time, yet when he was super small no one cared

I think realistically, Floyd was about 155-158. Probably not quite 160. But he still put on about 10 lbs or so, between weigh in and fight night, I believe

[Spray_resistant]

says who? Manny Steward has been around boxing forever, is a huge Floyd hater, and he said live on HBO that he thought Floyd was 152 in the ring. Nacho is a legend, has also been around boxing forever, has every reason to lie to make JMM look good, and even he said that he thought Floyd was 152. I keep telling people that he looked super huge because he is dark skin, because JMM is smaller, and because Floyd use to weigh 146 so even 6 or 7 pounds will make you look alot bigger in boxing, e****ally standing next to a smaller guy. Floyd moved up a while ago but he never had to move up. He was small at every weight he's been at since he left SFW but always quickly moved up to chase the big money Oscar fight. He was 136 at SFW, 138 at LW, 143 at SLW, and 146 at WW. I always use to say that not only is he P4P the best but P4P the smallest but no one cares. They only look at what you weigh in as. Now that he looked bigger against JMM, everyone starts talking about his weight for the 1st time, yet when he was super small no one cared

No one can tell me he was not at the very least 10lbs heavier than JMM......I don't need a scale I have eyes and any sensible adult could clearly see that....he pretty much admitted it by not stepping on the scale because he didn't want to overemphasis the size difference. If you disagree with that then we will just have to agree to disagree but nothing anyone says will convince me that he weighed less than 157 and that he doesn't walk around at the least 160.

[Boss Don]

how is he not?

[shade darkar]

I never said anything about height I am talking about natural walk around weight for the most part. I know many disagree with this but I could careless about weigh ins and am more concerned about natural walk around weight.

With that said if Pac fought Valero for Ex. I think there is nothing wrong with that as they are both roughly the same size with Pac maybe having about 3lbs or so on him.

well, natural walking around weight, i bet floyd is naturally half a stone heavier than pacquiao, but it doesnt mean too much to me, look at hatton! we know his walking around weight! at the end of the day they are gonna have an agreed limit of 147, which will mean floyd will have to lose a couple pounds, and pac will be at around his natural weight. thats gotta be a good thing for pacquaio, because id imagine your are gonna be stronger if you dont have to lose too much weight.

[shade darkar]

No one can tell me he was not at the very least 10lbs heavier than JMM......I don't need a scale I have eyes and any sensible adult could clearly see that....he pretty much admitted it by not stepping on the scale because he didn't want to overemphasis the size difference. If you disagree with that then we will just have to agree to disagree but nothing anyone says will convince me that he weighed less than 157 and that he doesn't walk around at the least 160.

157??? thats very specific. you dont know what he weighed, but it was obvious that mayweather was taller, and heavier.