We all do acknowledge that Pac is not physically a WW right?

[Allucard]

But rather an extremely good LW who is for several reasons is able to compete at the top tier of the WW division and maybe even be the best there. As he does come in on fight nights at the highest weights of about 148-149 the same as he and David Diaz did for their LW fights which is very typical of the division and overnight gains like this are just typical of boxing in general.
I am not really saying it means anything or should have any bearing on the results of the super fight in March. I just want to get an understanding of how many ppl acknowledge this and how many ppl think that some how he "got bigger" in his late 20's and over age 30.

lol STFU noob, Pacquiao and Floyd are the same SIZE. That's the exact description of Floyd too, an extremely good LW who managed to go up to 154 and beat the lineal and people's champion then in Oscar, as the "World awaited" TAKE THAT *****.

[Spray_resistant]

well, natural walking around weight, i bet floyd is naturally half a stone heavier than pacquiao, but it doesnt mean too much to me, look at hatton! we know his walking around weight! at the end of the day they are gonna have an agreed limit of 147, which will mean floyd will have to lose a couple pounds, and pac will be at around his natural weight. thats gotta be a good thing for pacquaio, because id imagine your are gonna be stronger if you dont have to lose too much weight.

Maybe maybe not if Floyd puts on weight safely and feels comfortable. I am not really into debating the super fight and the results due to Manny being slightly smaller naturally I am just saying that he is and beating bigger guys does not make you bigger. It would be like saying if he beat Cunningham now he is a CW. If he wanted to he could go fight Valero, Funeka, or Diaz at LW and there would be nothing wrong with that even if he does beat Floyd and could beat and WW in the world.

[r.burgundy]

He is smaller than Ali Funeka and has never in a fight weighed more than him......is Funeka a legit WW or JMW even then?

what does funeka have to do with pac?if you are over 140 you are a welter.just cause he has yet to come in at the limit of 147 doesnt mean he is not a welter.

[jkaisen41]

But rather an extremely good LW who is for several reasons is able to compete at the top tier of the WW division and maybe even be the best there. As he does come in on fight nights at the highest weights of about 148-149 the same as he and David Diaz did for their LW fights which is very typical of the division and overnight gains like this are just typical of boxing in general.
I am not really saying it means anything or should have any bearing on the results of the super fight in March. I just want to get an understanding of how many ppl acknowledge this and how many ppl think that some how he "got bigger" in his late 20's and over age 30.

If somebody fights at a weight and dominates one of the best at the weight and fights again at that weight... I would have to cosider him one...

As Henry Armstrong jumped classes and held 3 major titles you also couldn't say what he really was... so Pacquiao to me is what he fights at... is the same with Paul Williams... is he a WW, SWW, or MW? He is that what he fights at... Pacquiao fought his last 3 fights at least at JWW so I have to consider him like that.

[r.burgundy]

lol STFU noob, Pacquiao and Floyd are the same SIZE. That's the exact description of Floyd too, an extremely good LW who managed to go up to 154 and beat the lineal and people's champion then in Oscar, as the "World awaited" TAKE THAT *****.

oscar wasnt the linear champ at 54.winky was the recognized champ

[Syf]

Maybe maybe not if Floyd puts on weight safely and feels comfortable. I am not really into debating the super fight and the results due to Manny being slightly smaller naturally I am just saying that he is and beating bigger guys does not make you bigger. It would be like saying if he beat Cunningham now he is a CW. If he wanted to he could go fight Valero, Funeka, or Diaz at LW and there would be nothing wrong with that even if he does beat Floyd and could beat and WW in the world.

his walk around weight is still 140+

Valero, Diaz...

All these men are smaller than him. I would consider it not fair if Pac fights some of those smaller guys.

And Funeka is just a freak. But would snap in two against Pac.

[baracuda]

lol STFU noob, Pacquiao and Floyd are the same SIZE. That's the exact description of Floyd too, an extremely good LW who managed to go up to 154 and beat the lineal and people's champion then in Oscar, as the "World awaited" TAKE THAT *****.

no they are not..........pac and barrera are the same size naturally......

[Spray_resistant]

lol STFU noob, Pacquiao and Floyd are the same SIZE. That's the exact description of Floyd too, an extremely good LW who managed to go up to 154 and beat the lineal and people's champion then in Oscar, as the "World awaited" TAKE THAT *****.

Most lightweights don't climb in the ring at nearly or at 160 ever......and outweigh LW opponents at WW by 10lbs or more

[Spray_resistant]

his walk around weight is still 140+

Valero, Diaz...

All these men are smaller than him. I would consider it not fair if Pac fights some of those smaller guys.

And Funeka is just a freak. But would snap in two against Pac.

Most top LWs walk around at 140+ Valero for a 30 day weigh in recently was at 145 or near that correct me if that figure is wrong anyone......so whats the problem 3lbs or so?

[DLT]

No one can tell me he was not at the very least 10lbs heavier than JMM......I don't need a scale I have eyes and any sensible adult could clearly see that....he pretty much admitted it by not stepping on the scale because he didn't want to overemphasis the size difference. If you disagree with that then we will just have to agree to disagree but nothing anyone says will convince me that he weighed less than 157 and that he doesn't walk around at the least 160.

The scale proves nothing. If you look at his career Floyd got on the scale for every single one of his fights. Then he fought Oscar who was famous for never getting on the scale. Floyd that night didnt get on it since Oscar didnt and he's just done that ever since now. It didnt have nothing to do with JMM. HBO also said something during that telecast about Floyd being mad at them and wouldnt let them in the dressing room so they couldnt weigh him. That was when they were beefin and Floyd called Steward an uncle tom. No one knows but we probably will be able to tell more on March 13th. However, I will say this and I tell everyone this. ESPN News should the post fight presser live for about an hour and they have Floyd & Mosley standing side by side. Ive seen pics of them but never from the angle that they were showing that night. If you saw them side by side then you would think Mosley was 10x bigger. He was much more wider & broader than Floyd. I remember saying that I bet anything that Shane looks at Floyd and just thinks that he can break him in half