Greatest heavyweight ever...realistically?

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  • Easy-E
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    #41
    Originally posted by Carnivore
    Rocky Marciano.
    love Rocky, he was born 20 minutes from me, had awesome power and all the heart in the world. But if he was matched up with an Foreman or Tyson, I cant imagine him getting past the 4th round.
    Ali would beat him up and stop him imo.

    When I say this, I am referring to the best these fighters have looked.

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    • bunce101
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      #42
      my personal opinion is that Rocky Marciano has the most inflated resume in history, I think any of the atgs would've done just as good infact most likely better than he did, tyson or dempsey for example, wouldve butchered all those ancient wayyyyyyy past it dude rocky made a career out of fighting

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      • bunce101
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        #43


        KLit bros look like they're getting fed up with Daivd Haye

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        • bunce101
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          #44

          wlad wants to kill him

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          • Jim Jeffries
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            #45
            Originally posted by Easy-E
            love Rocky, he was born 20 minutes from me, had awesome power and all the heart in the world. But if he was matched up with an Foreman or Tyson, I cant imagine him getting past the 4th round.
            Ali would beat him up and stop him imo.

            When I say this, I am referring to the best these fighters have looked.
            If Marciano fought today, he'd be a SMW/LHW. Not really sure why people always try to match him up against the Foreman types. No one ever imagines 5'7", 168 pound Tommy Burns fighting Lennox Lewis, why Rocky?

            Rocky would lose to Lewis, Foreman, Tyson, Ali, and quite a few more, no sht Sherlock. Doesn't make him any less great for accomplishing what he did given his physical limitations.

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              #46
              Originally posted by JAB5239

              Im not discrediting Vitaly, but the similarities are abundant. I challenge anybody to watch footage of both and try to say they don't fight alike. Thank you though, my friend.
              Primo Carnera made the TIME Magazine cover page. So we cant count him out againts Vitali.


              *Old footages looks like cartoons. Its very hard to compare them with todays fighters. And the speed of those footages arent accurate.

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                #47
                Originally posted by JAB5239

                Im not discrediting Vitaly, but the similarities are abundant. I challenge anybody to watch footage of both and try to say they don't fight alike. Thank you though, my friend.
                Originally posted by bklynboy
                I love Ali but he had a hard time with Ken Norton. 3 very close fights. I think he would have had a hard time with Larry Holmes and Joe Louis as well.

                That's an old Ali. It's like Evander having a hard time with John Ruiz.

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                • GJC
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by bunce101
                  By that I mean when you think about fights like Vitali KLitschko vs Ali you have to take into account the size disparity, aswell as styles making fights
                  Vitali and Ali's reach are the same, Foreman's is more. Problem with trying to rate Vitali is that he lost to the only great fighter he fought the rest are no more than punch bags or past it to be honest no matter how you try to pump up their record. Ali is tried and proven against some of the best HW's in history.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by bunce101
                    By that I mean when you think about fights like Vitali KLitschko vs Ali you have to take into account the size disparity, aswell as styles making fights because I could see Klitschko having a much harder time against prime mike tyson than Ali would, breaking it down and taking into account alll the aspects that make a great fighter, who is THE greatest heavyweight of all time(the one that beats the most fighters and the most styles. nobody can beat everybody). I'll give mine after I see a few other pepoles


                    Note - don't just give a name, give reasoning on why a certain fighter could handle so many different styles and fighters which make him the greatest
                    Goddammanit!!!!! for the last ****en time.........Ali and Tyson......even draw..........

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                      #50
                      Muhammad Ali, no question. He's the best HW I've ever seen fight.

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