Who has defeated more fighters in their PRIME: Mayweather or Pacquiao?

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  • jrosales13
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    #81
    Originally posted by Calilloyd
    Didn't Barrera sucker punch Morales at one of the press conferences during the promotional stare down?
    LOL yea he did... I think it was for the 2nd fight. He threw a punch and then Morales tried to retaliate but Barrera used his foot work to get the hell out of the way.

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    • jkaisen41
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      #82
      Originally posted by miron_lang
      Yeah its an opinion and its yours.

      Barrera I > Corrales
      JMM > Castillo
      Hatton > Gatti
      Cotto > Genaro
      Ledwabba, Sasakul, Diaz > Baldomir


      You can pick this a part. Id like to see your opinion.
      Styles make fights... Corrales would have taken off Barrera's head. Corrales is no slouch... he connected against anyone he fought (exception being Floyd)... nothing against Barrera but this would have been bad for him...

      JMM = Castillo... Castillo in his prime was never beaten he only lost on cuts... the only reason he has a bad rep is because of the weight thing. Marquez probably a slight better then Castillo.

      Hatton = Hatton

      Cotto can't even be compared to Genaro... they never fought in the same weight class... but if you want to at the time Genaro was considered the best at the weight and Cotto probably the best at WW

      Diaz = Baldomir

      Ledwabba, Sasakul = I don't know them enough to dare to compare them to someone

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      • miron_lang
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        #83
        Prime Jorge Solis > Prime Philp Ndou
        Prime Rakkiatgym > Prime Henry Bruseless

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          #84
          Originally posted by Easy Work
          I have had many discussions with boxing fans and read many threads on the internet about who has the better resume between Floyd Mayweather & Manny Pacquiao. Many people say that because of Pac's wins over Barrera & Morales that he should be considered to have the better resume. It seems as if people rate resumes by NAMES and not the physical shape that the opposing fighter was in at the time that the fight took place.

          So my question to you boxing fans is who has more PRIME WINS on their resume throughout their career.........Mayweather or Pacquiao?
          The prime Barrera, JMM, Morales and Cotto who Pac fought even if they are past in their prime will still beat any fighter in Floyd resume if they are in the same weight classes. That's why most boxer experts (they are not same races with pac) chosen Pac in higher atg/legacy status than Floyd. I believe them because their words have more weight than Floyd fans who are bs on their own fighter.

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          • miron_lang
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            #85
            Originally posted by jkaisen41
            Styles make fights... Corrales would have taken off Barrera's head. Corrales is no slouch... he connected against anyone he fought (exception being Floyd)... nothing against Barrera but this would have been bad for him...

            JMM = Castillo... Castillo in his prime was never beaten he only lost on cuts... the only reason he has a bad rep is because of the weight thing. Marquez probably a slight better then Castillo.

            Hatton = Hatton

            Cotto can't even be compared to Genaro... they never fought in the same weight class... but if you want to at the time Genaro was considered the best at the weight and Cotto probably the best at WW

            Diaz = Baldomir

            Ledwabba, Sasakul = I don't know them enough to dare to compare them to someone
            I think the thread is about accomplishments.

            It's not a head to head matchup mate.



            Side notes:

            Barrera is 126-135 fighter
            Corrales is 130-147 fighter

            They are not the same size.

            Castillo was stopped by Cesar Sotto a career Featherweight. I can say Pac never lost in his prime.
            Last edited by miron_lang; 12-17-2009, 02:44 AM.

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            • jkaisen41
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              #86
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              I agree with that. I think Pac has the better names. But, Floyd body of work from top to bottom is better. I don't think anybody can argue with that. But, I am pretty sure some will try.

              And, I am a Pac fan. He is my favorite active fighter. But, I love the sport more than any particular fighter. So I really try to keep it unbiased and just talk as a boxing fan. I know me people consider me a hater. But, I really don't hate on nobody. I just try to make my points as a boxing fan and not as a fan of a fighter.
              I'm a fan of both men skills... but I somehow always go with the anti-hero... and there is so much hate on Floyd that I automatically reside with him... because most is simply pure hate on not based on facts...

              I feel you... Pacquiao is absolutely an great... gotta give it to him... I'm more boxing purist but dude since moving showed me some serious skill...

              The problem is I really can't see him compete with May... I hope he can bring the best out of Mayweather... we will see... if somebody can then it's Pacquiao... even though ppl talk about Marga, Cotto, Mosley... I don't see them having a chance at all... but Pacquiao has def. things that is needed to get to Floyd... I hope he can pull it off... and we got a fight that at least scratches the surface of a good scrap... to make it worthy such an event... MAY *lol* the best man win *loooooooooooooooooooooool*

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                #87
                Originally posted by miron_lang
                I think the thread is about accomplishments.

                It's not a head to head matchup mate.

                Barrera is 126-135 fighter
                Corrales is 130-147 fighter

                They are not the same size.
                Oh sorry... then I've interpreted it wrong *loooooooooooooooooooooool*

                Like said... I think Pacquiao has the better names but he was also blessed to have these fighters around... the only truly great fighter that was around May was Mosley one weight class above him... so of course name wise he can't hold up to Pacquiao... but like said guys like Tszyu, Cotto, Margarito etc. are good fighters but not great... so Mosley is probably really the only one who was in his sights...

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by miron_lang
                  Prime Jorge Solis > Prime Philp Ndou
                  Prime Rakkiatgym > Prime Henry Bruseless
                  phillip "timebomber ndou" is frickin great. all ko's but 1. dear god how did mayweather survive?

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                  • miron_lang
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by jkaisen41

                    Like said... I think Pacquiao has the better names but he was also blessed to have these fighters around... the only truly great fighter that was around May was Mosley one weight class above him... so of course name wise he can't hold up to Pacquiao... but like said guys like Tszyu, Cotto, Margarito etc. are good fighters but not great... so Mosley is probably really the only one who was in his sights...
                    Yeah I agree.

                    Other fighters didnt have them. Pacquiao was really blessed as was the case for Leonard having Benitez, Hearns, Duran and Hagler around.

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                      #90
                      wow... 28 28 lol

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