Who has defeated more fighters in their PRIME: Mayweather or Pacquiao?

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  • miron_lang
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    #71
    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
    I can name lots of cases like that, doesn't mean anything.
    Yeah its an opinion and its yours.

    Barrera I > Corrales
    JMM > Castillo
    Hatton > Gatti
    Cotto > Genaro
    Ledwabba, Sasakul, Diaz > Baldomir


    You can pick this a part. Id like to see your opinion.

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    • jkaisen41
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      #72
      Originally posted by sandyvahra
      +1. At 130 n 135 I was a big nuthugger. I also liked the 'pretty boy' moniker more. He showed his heart, passion and killer instinct. 140, 147 n 154 are another story. I reallyt feel that after the Gatti fight, floyd knew his name had arrived. With that came money. From that point on he became a business/money fighter entirely. Highest reward, lowest risk. Don't get me wrong good for him, ****ty for fans. There isn't a floyd fan on here who wouldnt want to see him have fought guys like tszyu, cotto, mosley, winky, etc.
      To a degree I agree... because actually I thought that too for a while that he should have fought better opposition... but again if you look at it there was pretty much no chance for it.

      He begged guys like I said before for the limelight. Even Gatti - he begged him about a year... he begged Mosley... but they ain't wanted it. He wanted Cotto at 140 etc. He also wanted to fight Tzsyu... but as he was at 140 Tszyu had knee problems and finally lost to Hatton... you can't always blame everything on him... besides of Margarito... everybody else is two sided sword... Wright was never really in his wingspan...

      As he came to Welterweight Judah held 3 titles and Margarito one... these were the champions... Cotto and Mosley ain't even fought at WW until he fought DLH and Hatton... and everybody who could get DLH would and anybody near Hatton wants Hatton... so I can't blame him for finally wanting to arrive in the limelight... he payed his dues... he was P4P king for years and nobody knew about him...

      So in the end I have the feeling that his resume at 47 is some kind of lacking something... but when you look at the facts... it's pretty hard to argue with his decisions if you ask me...

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      • miron_lang
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        #73
        Originally posted by Chups
        This has happened about a month ago.........*****s trying to twist facts to favor their poll. They couldn't get a win.
        Mga bobo at gunggong eh. Langya ngayon lang uli ako napikon lol

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        • jrosales13
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          #74
          Originally posted by jkaisen41
          You seem to be a guy who is not blind and actually makes sense... even though you are a Pacquiao fan *loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool*

          I don't see why you should hate on guys or their resumes...

          I think the first Barrera win was ansolutely legit... I mean was he in his prime who knows... he was in wars... but then you could say about anyone else as well... the second Barrera fight was nothing because Barrera only wanted to survive IMO but the first one was great.

          The first two matches against Morales were great... again if he was past it you still have to beat it out of him... the third one was clearly too late.

          Against Marquez I felt he won both fights and they are absolutely legit as well.

          Hatton could be still seen as best at 140... and Cotto was one of the best WW so these ones are absolutely legit and against top competition. I don't know much of his lower weight history... but these are the ones that a 100% legit in my mind.

          Mayweather fought very good opposition at 130... Corrales, Hernandez (toward the end of his career), Jesus Chavez, Manfredy. Later on Castillo... later on Hatton... so I think Manny has bigger names but the whole body of work of Mayweather equals it pretty much.

          Like said before I think Mayweather fought more champions and Pacquiao won titles in more weight divisions... both are the most decorated boxers of our time (with the exception of DLH) and they should fight for all the marbles... I'm excited to tell you the truth and hope this **** finally gets signed *looooooooooooooooooooool*
          I agree with that. I think Pac has the better names. But, Floyd body of work from top to bottom is better. I don't think anybody can argue with that. But, I am pretty sure some will try.

          And, I am a Pac fan. He is my favorite active fighter. But, I love the sport more than any particular fighter. So I really try to keep it unbiased and just talk as a boxing fan. I know me people consider me a hater. But, I really don't hate on nobody. I just try to make my points as a boxing fan and not as a fan of a fighter.

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          • Doctor_Tenma
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            #75
            Originally posted by miron_lang
            Yeah its an opinion and its yours.

            Barrera I > Corrales
            JMM > Castillo
            Hatton > Gatti
            Cotto > Genaro
            Ledwabba, Sasakul, Diaz > Baldomir


            You can pick this a part. Id like to see your opinion.
            My opinion, Pacquiao's resume is slightly better.

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            • Calilloyd
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              #76
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              Yea Barrera and Morales hated each other bro. Like there was some serious hatred.
              Didn't Barrera sucker punch Morales at one of the press conferences during the promotional stare down?

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              • miron_lang
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                #77
                Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                My opinion, Pacquiao's resume is slightly better.
                lol


                Fine I think that's good enough.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by sandyvahra
                  +1. At 130 n 135 I was a big nuthugger. I also liked the 'pretty boy' moniker more. He showed his heart, passion and killer instinct. 140, 147 n 154 are another story. I reallyt feel that after the Gatti fight, floyd knew his name had arrived. With that came money. From that point on he became a business/money fighter entirely. Highest reward, lowest risk. Don't get me wrong good for him, ****ty for fans. There isn't a floyd fan on here who wouldnt want to see him have fought guys like tszyu, cotto, mosley, winky, etc.
                  Exactly bro. personally I don't mind him making his money. Like you said good for him and TBH I would do the same thing. Get the most money as possible...

                  But, as a boxing fan I really don't like it. I want the best fighting the best. I don't want to hear excuses as his not big enough name, not a big enough draw, doesn't bring nothing to the table. That is what I don't like as a boxing. I want the best to fight the best. I don't care if it is a smart business move or not.

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                  • sandyvahra
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by jkaisen41
                    To a degree I agree... because actually I thought that too for a while that he should have fought better opposition... but again if you look at it there was pretty much no chance for it.

                    He begged guys like I said before for the limelight. Even Gatti - he begged him about a year... he begged Mosley... but they ain't wanted it. He wanted Cotto at 140 etc. He also wanted to fight Tzsyu... but as he was at 140 Tszyu had knee problems and finally lost to Hatton... you can't always blame everything on him... besides of Margarito... everybody else is two sided sword... Wright was never really in his wingspan...

                    As he came to Welterweight Judah held 3 titles and Margarito one... these were the champions... Cotto and Mosley ain't even fought at WW until he fought DLH and Hatton... and everybody who could get DLH would and anybody near Hatton wants Hatton... so I can't blame him for finally wanting to arrive in the limelight... he payed his dues... he was P4P king for years and nobody knew about him...

                    So in the end I have the feeling that his resume at 47 is some kind of lacking something... but when you look at the facts... it's pretty hard to argue with his decisions if you ask me...
                    Can't blame floyd for all of em, i agree. on the same hand you cant defend him on all of them. going back to the thread, the whole point is pac's resume is better because he's left no questions. regardless of circumstance, pac has answered almost all questions, floyd either hasnt or hadnt the opportunity. at the end of the day floyds get knocked because those question marks remain.

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                      #80
                      I dont really get this logic tho, how can a person know when a fighter is prime or shot? could someone explain this to me?

                      Could you guys list the "prime" fighters PBF you fought in his career plsss....

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