Who has defeated more fighters in their PRIME: Mayweather or Pacquiao?

[jrosales13]

as far as the poll goes, when you look up and down mayweathers list, there are alot of guys who were viewed as being in their prime, mayweather wasnt babied at all. pacman has more names, but mayweather certainley took on alot of guys who were prime, moreso than manny IMO. Mayweather loses every poll on boxingscene unless its negative, but this is one he should win IMO. Not to mention hes dethroend 2 undefeated p4p fighters while they were p4p.

Floyd wasn't babied at all. Really in less than 2yrs as a pro and in less than 20 fights he fought Genaro Hernandez. And, I don't think Chicanito was in his prime. But, he is still was the man in that division.

And, then as a 130 champ he fought top contenders like Manfreddy, Gregorio Vargas who was a top 103lber at the time, a killer in Corrales, Chavez, C. Hernandez both top 5. His resume is good at that weight can nobody take away. He was thrown into the wolves early and showed his greatness. During this time period I was a huge fan. Maybe even a nuthugger.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

MP VS MAB 1 = MAB 29 years old, top 3-5 p4p. after the 1st pac loss, won 6 times vs a 47-1 erik morales, robbie peden who owns 2 victories vs future lightweight champ nate campbell, paulie ayala, 2 wins vs a young rocky juarez, mzonke fana before losing to a first ballot HOF & future lightweight champ juan manuel marquez in a decision in which he knocked down marquez but was taken away by the tight & incompetent jay nady.

MP VS MAB 1 = Prime MAB.


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[miron_lang]

Are you sure he fought Barrera on 3 week notice? Man I don't remeber that. My memory is fucking up right now. You sure you don't mean Ledwaba fight being in 3 week notice? You might be right and I am just tired that I can't remember.

This kid doesnt know ****. That fight had a press conference in August 2003 a good 3 months from the actual fight. I was a member at MAB's forum and you realize how crazy it is back then.

[El Jesus]

*** the excuses, at no point would barrera have been competitive against pac. he had his shot and nobody was questioning who he was when he outboxed morales arguably 3 times. training camp issues or not, he lost. Pac overwhelmed him and i was happy he did. Thats what he gets for all that chilango bull**** he pulled against morales.

[jrosales13]

I actually bet on Pac and won it for that fight. I knew his speed and power would be too much for Barrera. He was a bad style match up for MAB. I saw things in the Junior Jones fight that made me believe Pacquiao could beat Barrea and I think he would have beaten any version of Barrera. That was his most impressive win for me. Not Cotto who I pretty much expected to lose the way he did.

That was a very smart bet. And, yes I agree with you about that being Pac best win.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Floyd wasn't babied at all. Really in less than 2yrs as a pro and in less than 20 fights he fought Genaro Hernandez. And, I don't think Chicanito was in his prime. But, he is still was the man in that division.

And, then as a 130 champ he fought top contenders like Manfreddy, Gregorio Vargas who was a top 103lber at the time, a killer in Corrales, Chavez, C. Hernandez both top 5. His resume is good at that weight can nobody take away. He was thrown into the wolves early and showed his greatness. During this time period I was a huge fan. Maybe even a nuthugger.

Ganero was in his prime in my opinion.

[Chups]

Definitely Pacquiao...he's got 50+ fights on his resume to pick at, while May has 30+. That itself is already an advantage for Pac.

[menoari]

Barrera wasnt prepared for Pac because he was a last second replacement. like 2 or 3 weeks before the fight or something like that. He wasnt able to prepare.....and a fighter like Pac you MUST prepare for.

Not sure if it was MAB or Ledwaba where Pac was a late replacement.

The argument however of a disadvantage for MAB in that fight (if Pac was a late replacement) fails. If Pac was a replacement, then even Pac didn't prepare for MAB. The argument cuts both ways and cannot favor one fighter over the other. Ironically, this same point was mentioned by Horus, of all people, while discussing Williams - Martinez, where it was suggested that Williams was at a disadvantage due to the replacement of Pavlik (originally scheduled) by Martinez and was not able to prepare properly for Martinez.

[jkaisen41]

I put the Barrera win as his best. A little bit ahead of Cotto. And, I remember the excuses about something with his brain or a surgery or something was wrong with his head. But, I couldn't believe how Pac how easy Pac made it look. Barrera didn't know what hit him. So yea I agree it was a close to prime Barrera. And, Barrera had some success after that fight too. So it is not like he was old or shot.

You seem to be a guy who is not blind and actually makes sense... even though you are a Pacquiao fan *loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool*

I don't see why you should hate on guys or their resumes...

I think the first Barrera win was ansolutely legit... I mean was he in his prime who knows... he was in wars... but then you could say about anyone else as well... the second Barrera fight was nothing because Barrera only wanted to survive IMO but the first one was great.

The first two matches against Morales were great... again if he was past it you still have to beat it out of him... the third one was clearly too late.

Against Marquez I felt he won both fights and they are absolutely legit as well.

Hatton could be still seen as best at 140... and Cotto was one of the best WW so these ones are absolutely legit and against top competition. I don't know much of his lower weight history... but these are the ones that a 100% legit in my mind.

Mayweather fought very good opposition at 130... Corrales, Hernandez (toward the end of his career), Jesus Chavez, Manfredy. Later on Castillo... later on Hatton... so I think Manny has bigger names but the whole body of work of Mayweather equals it pretty much.

Like said before I think Mayweather fought more champions and Pacquiao won titles in more weight divisions... both are the most decorated boxers of our time (with the exception of DLH) and they should fight for all the marbles... I'm excited to tell you the truth and hope this **** finally gets signed *looooooooooooooooooooool*

[sandyvahra]

Floyd wasn't babied at all. Really in less than 2yrs as a pro and in less than 20 fights he fought Genaro Hernandez. And, I don't think Chicanito was in his prime. But, he is still was the man in that division.

And, then as a 130 champ he fought top contenders like Manfreddy, Gregorio Vargas who was a top 103lber at the time, a killer in Corrales, Chavez, C. Hernandez both top 5. His resume is good at that weight can nobody take away. He was thrown into the wolves early and showed his greatness. During this time period I was a huge fan. Maybe even a nuthugger.

+1. At 130 n 135 I was a big nuthugger. I also liked the 'pretty boy' moniker more. He showed his heart, passion and killer instinct. 140, 147 n 154 are another story. I reallyt feel that after the Gatti fight, floyd knew his name had arrived. With that came money. From that point on he became a business/money fighter entirely. Highest reward, lowest risk. Don't get me wrong good for him, ****ty for fans. There isn't a floyd fan on here who wouldnt want to see him have fought guys like tszyu, cotto, mosley, winky, etc.