Who has defeated more fighters in their PRIME: Mayweather or Pacquiao?

[Dynamite Kid]

You know, there were talks of Pernell Whitaker moving up to 154 and facing Norris. Think Whitaker would have beaten him?

At 147 probably. Im honestly not sure about 154.

Vasquez was good/decent 154 pounder but Norris/Vasquez two different proposition's. Norris would not have to worry about being Ko'ed by Whitaker so it might purely come down to how the styles mesh.

I think Norris might be a bit too strong for him though. Whitaker could try and Box Norris but as was the case in the DLH fight, would he let his hands go enough to take a decision over Norris? the more he punches the more openings there are for Norris. If he got the benefit of the doubt from the judges he could squeak by Norris with a SD, but im not sure the judges would see what he is doing, would he be being aggressive enough to beat Norris?

Norris is also taller, longer reach.

[Doctor_Tenma]

At 147 probably. Im honestly not sure about 154.

Vasquez was good/decent 154 pounder but Norris/Vasquez two different proposition's. Norris would not have to worry about being Ko'ed by Whitaker so it might purely come down to how the styles mesh.

I think Norris might be a bit too strong for him though. Whitaker could try and Box Norris but as was the case in the DLH fight, would he let his hands go enough to take a decision over Norris? the more he punches the more openings there are for Norris. If he got the benefit of the doubt from the judges he could squeak by Norris with a SD, but im not sure the judges would see what he is doing, would he be being aggressive enough to beat Norris?

Norris is also taller, longer reach.

Not sure either but it would have been very interesting. You're right about Norris being alot different then JCV, Norris was quick and wouldn't have to worry about Whitaker's power. I do think Whitaker can get a little dirty, wrestle a little and go to the body. Then again, Norris had really quick hands, would have loved to see it. There were also talks of Whitaker vs. Ike, then again that was late into Whitaker's career.

[hugh grant]

he beat hatton you say with home town advantages yet hatton said floyd is better than pacquiao and believes that pacquiao can't beat floyd so you can beat yourself in the head to believe hatton had a chance at actually beatin floyd but the truth is hatton did nothing to floyd for 10 rounds and got knocked out and as far as the whole 147 thing why is it that 147 is a bad weight for hatton because collazo was givin him the buisness?

you say cotto put on a good performance after the marg fight but his fight after the marg fight was the jennings fight and alot of people were not to impressed with that fight than after that he fought clottey but to you he had a so called bad day but it seems like he had 3 bad days back to back maybe it wasn't just a bad day

Hatton was doing well against PBF until the ref stepped in. Hatton never said pac cant beat PBF.

Only one person ever beat Cotto properly and that was Pac. Not Marge. Marge was losing up to the point he stopped cotto. Pac ran away from Cotto and was always in control up to stopping him.

[dans]

First of all, I never said Barrera and Cotto were shot. Never mentioned them at all.

But secondly,

I find it very ironic that Pacquiao fans are sitting here discrediting Floyd's win over Baldomir cause he already had nine losses.

So let me get this straight. Pacquiao has been KOed twice. Both early in his career. But we're supposed to believe that Pacquiao was not the same fighter back then, and he would never lose those fights today. Fair enough, I agree.

But then, when we're talking Floyd's resume. I bring up the fact that Baldomir had not lost in 9 years. Pac fans are trying to tell me that beating Baldomir meant nothing because he already had 9 losses. Basically telling me Baldomir was a bum.

So in conclusion, some of Pac's fans like to have their cake, and eat it too.

They want us to throw away Pac's two KO losses that were early in his career, but when we're talking about Mayweather, Baldomir was a bum because he lost nine times nine years before fighting Floyd.

Double standard much?

No takers on this one? Big surprise.

[Doctor_Tenma]

No takers on this one? Big surprise.

I was expecting that. Anyway, Baldomir > David Diaz.

[letsgobrady]

Hatton was doing well against PBF until the ref stepped in. Hatton never said pac cant beat PBF.

Only one person ever beat Cotto properly and that was Pac. Not Marge. Marge was losing up to the point he stopped cotto. Pac ran away from Cotto and was always in control up to stopping him.

hatton was never doin well against pretty boy you have to be actually hittin someon to do well,punches on the back of the head are illegal punches so that doesn't count. hatton did say that pac can't beat floyd he said that floyds defense is to good but he much rather watch a pacquiao fight than to watch floyd because he is boring, i think the article was in boxingscene somewhere.

cotto got beat up in both the clottey fight and margarito fight and there were alot of people sayin that cotto was not the same fighter anymore including teddy atlas and freddie roach but as soon as he gets beat by manny people just forget that they thought that cotto was on a downslide

[dans]

I was expecting that. Anyway, Baldomir > David Diaz.

Yup. No doubt about that.

Dude, I'm not even a Mayweather fan, this **** just pisses me off. I refuse to swim with the current on this stuff. I can't stand double standards like that. They want people to kneel down to Pacquiao's achievements yet we're supposed to laugh at Floyd's. Like they're not both ATGs. Just ******, immature, and pathetic.

Anyway, you're a good poster, with a level head. Unfortunately we're in the minority these days.

[Tha_Greatest]

oh BTW..please list the fighters whom you believe were in or close to their physical primes at the time when Mayweather or Pacquiao beat them

i voted for floyd because his sensational victory over the big show and his career defing victory over Sum Boys Dad, lol, nyahahahaha

[Tha_Greatest]

Yup. No doubt about that.

Dude, I'm not even a Mayweather fan, this **** just pisses me off. I refuse to swim with the current on this stuff. I can't stand double standards like that. They want people to kneel down to Pacquiao's achievements yet we're supposed to laugh at Floyd's. Like they're not both ATGs. Just ******, immature, and pathetic.

Anyway, you're a good poster, with a level head. Unfortunately we're in the minority these days.

it pisses me off too, why do peoplelaugh about floyds victory over a prime toni bruseles or a prime victoriano sosa, they are horrible fighters but they were still in their prime, i give floyd full credit for those victories, those wins are what makes fighters legends, lol, nyahahaha

[Doctor_Tenma]

it pisses me off too, why do peoplelaugh about floyds victory over a prime toni bruseles or a prime victoriano sosa, they are horrible fighters but they were still in their prime, i give floyd full credit for those victories, those wins are what makes fighters legends, lol, nyahahaha

Victoriano Sosa and Ndou would have beaten David Diaz.