Let's be real.. prime Oscar would've whooped Pacquiao

[jrosales13]

Two robberies. Two fights when he was over the hill.

But yes, you're right.

GTFOH what fights were robberies that he lost?

Lets talk about the Whitaker robbery...

I had John John Molina winning that fight.

Quartey was close could of gone either way.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Two robberies. Two fights when he was over the hill.

But yes, you're right.

well, i guess in your eyes, DLH never really lost...good job!




the greatest gift that PAC has ever given this sport so far, is retiring that fishnet-wearing, cherrypicking ***g0t and his ***** ass fans

[Sugarr]

Should have learnt the lesson now never to underestimate Pac. There is no reason to believe DLH could have ever done to Cotto what Pac did.

So no. A prime Cotto wouldnt beat Pac at WW at all. Pac is ATG top 10 at least. DLH hasnt reached those dizzy heights.

Is De La Hoya also Cotto's twin?

[hookoutofhell]

before the fight with cotto i think i would have favoured DLH to possibly win by KO. his size, speed, chin, stamina and left hook would simply have been too much for pacman

now im not so sure, if this fight was to take place at 140/147 i think pacman would give DLH a good competitive fight. DLH himself struggles with speedier fighters and has well documented problems with southpaws (sweet pea, his ducking of winky etc).

heck im gonna go and say pacman by dec.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

GTFOH what fights were robberies that he lost?

Lets talk about the Whitaker robbery...

I had John John Molina winning that fight.

Quartey was close could of gone either way.

i had pernell in that fight too...funny how there was no rematch

[jrosales13]

Instead of going by what a record says, why not watch the actual fight yourself? Pacquiao was out-boxed by Marquez in both fights and was given a gift decision in the second fight. Didn't even deserve the first fight draw, IMO.

Please tell me what rounds Marquez clearly won in the 2nd fight... Not close rounds that could be called swing rounds. But, rounds that JMM clearly won?

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Instead of going by what a record says, why not watch the actual fight yourself? Pacquiao was out-boxed by Marquez in both fights and was given a gift decision in the second fight. Didn't even deserve the first fight draw, IMO.

of course he didn't deserve a draw...if that judge knew how to score a 3KD round, that would be 2-0 vs marquez

[Sugarr]

well, i guess in your eyes, DLH never really lost...good job!

He did lose. I had him losing to Mosley (in their first fight), Hopkins (obviously) and Sturm.

the greatest gift that PAC has ever given this sport so far, is retiring that fishnet-wearing, cherrypicking ***g0t and his ***** ass fans

I'm hardly a big fan of his. I just don't like the uneducated boxing fans who over-hype their fighter to the fullest extent.

[jrosales13]

i had pernell in that fight too...funny how there was no rematch

Yea no rematch with Whitaker...

But, he gave a shot Chavez a rematch after Oscar clearly won the first fight...

My question is why?

[YoungReezy]

If Pac can neutralize Oscar left hook and still standing after 8rds. Then Pac wins this fight. Oscar had problems with southpaws and you add Pac speed and power. With Oscar stamina problems. Is really not out of the realm of possibility that Pac can win that fight

ooks like jrosales didnt watch boxing in the 90s, oscar had no stamina problems when he was in his prime, infact most of his knockouts, stoppages, or knockdowns came in the late rounds