Roy Jones was not taleneted...he was ATHLETIC.

[El Castigador]

Marquez changed his style? How? Mayweather? How? Hopkins? How? How did they change their style?

Not really changed their style....

Hopkins for example...lost speed, power, relexes, agility, and foot speed.

Yet he still can dominate people...

Because hes ACCURATE, has DEFENSE, basic boxing ****...that Roy didnt have to fall back on...dont get me wrong I loved Roy...I just dont see where his talent came into play....when he needed his talent he weas getting knocked the **** out....to where Hopkins is still going strong literally a DECADE after he lost speed and relexes.

[Rabbit ♠]

By TS logic Mike Vick could come into boxing and be just as good as RJJ??

[IMDAZED]

Marquez went from pure counterpunching assassin, to more of a mix it up style where he took more chances. He was winning too easily before that.

He only did it for the fans.

If Marquez stays a pure counterpuncher, nobody ever beats him.

Marquez didn't change, he got older and, thus, was getting hit more. Which, in turn, forced him to fight back more.

Some of you guys are hilarious.

[IMDAZED]

Not really changed their style....

Hopkins for example...lost speed, power, relexes, agility, and foot speed.

Yet he still can dominate people...

Because hes ACCURATE, has DEFENSE, basic boxing ****...that Roy didnt have to fall back on...dont get me wrong I loved Roy...I just dont see where his talent came into play....when he needed his talent he weas getting knocked the **** out....to where Hopkins is still going strong literally a DECADE after he lost speed and relexes.

Wait...so now they didn't change their style?

[sunny31]

Ha ha I can't believe so many people have bit on this thread. Why even dignify it, complete nonsense.

Roy Jones not talented? Ha ha Ive ****ing heard it all now.

Jones was PURE talent...he was the epitome of talent

Did he lack some basic boxing technique? Yeah maybe

I think I know what your trying to say, but you need to pick your words more carefully, and if you still think he had no talent then...

:wank:

[El Castigador]

terrible thread....you have to have talent to throw a 20 punch combo

No bro, you have to be fighjting a terrible fighter to get a 20 punch combo off...or so you need speed, coordination and reflexes..and when Roy lost that..he was DONE.

He didnt have the SKILLS to compensate for his age like Hopkins, JMM and Floyd

[SN!PER]

Man, you've got it backwards. Talent is natural ability, like what Ali, Tyson and James Toney had. You can't learn what they had, you're born with it.

Then you have someone like Wladimir Klitschko who had to work and study for many years to develop his game plan. That's why he was getting knocked out when he was younger and inexperienced, but now people can't do **** to him.

[El Castigador]

Wait...so now they didn't change their style?

Man stop ****ing around...with all the sarcastic sassy 5th grade girl ****...my post is right there...

your response

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Man stop ****ing around...with all the sarcastic sassy 5th grade girl ****...my post is right there...

your response

I initially wanted to say that when I read the title of this thread.

You said they changed their style then recanted and said, well they actually didn't.

I've already answered your question. Read my posts above.

[El Castigador]

Man, you've got it backwards. Talent is natural ability, like what Ali, Tyson and James Toney had. You can't learn what they had, you're born with it.

Then you have someone like Wladimir Klitschko who had to work and study for many years to develop his game plan. That's why he was getting knocked out when he was younger and inexperienced, but now people can't do **** to him.

I look at Wlad like at Pac.. a guy you had to teach how to be a good boxer.

No one had to teach Roy his reflexes, and speed...

BUT...what Im saying is when he lost speed and reflexes..he had no BOXING ABILITY to compnesate for it.