What now for Cotto? Cotto vs Chavez Jr in 2010?

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Lefty wats good bro, good post. before anything though I played back the show that night and it originally sounded as if I thought Chavez Jr would walk thru Cotto, I just want to clear the air and leave it known that I don't see Chavez Jr even being competitive, with Cotto's head movement, experience and body work Chavez Jr wont hang, my main question was why for Cotto, I don't think Cotto would lose at all in fact I think he will hurt his body worse than Shane to Plastercheato but for them 2 to fight don't make sense, it can happen but why

honestly I still don't know you feel me, Chavez Jr is on a completely different war path than Cotto and will most likely be a Middleweight, they got plans for him against Duddy ya know it's just not a fight Cotto should take IMO. I can take Foreman just for a 154 strap but Chavez Jr? that is all risk no reward imo for Cotto, he stands at no real gain. I think his best option is if he can't get the winner of Mosley-Berto in his next fight he should take on the loser and let the winner get his $$$ fight and then fight that winner, if Shane beat Berto then fight Berto and then go fight the winner of whoever fights after that..

I guess in a nutshell if there isn't a respected title on the line or if it isn't a heavily notable name he shouldn't even fight again, at such a late stage in his career it's maybe not the best move to move up and risk more punishment, his mind is already set to retirement(I saw an interview this morning with him saying 2 more then no more) so why move up and face a whole new pool of adversity, a new stable of fighters calling you out? he should take on the winner of Jan 31 st while Floyd-Manny goes down and both winners can face off, I would really like that..

While you have a good point what with you are saying my and I respect your point of view i think Cotto is done at 147. I think he has taken a lot of punishment over the past 3 years lot of wear and tear on his body and mind. Dating back to the Judah fight he has taken big shots and gotten cut and to me will not do well against a puncher boxer type or a pressure fighter. Foreman to me is his best option for another title in a third weight class. At 147 he would not get another title shot unless it were against Mosley or Berto. I do not think Floyd will fight him unless he has a loss on his record. If he eats Pacquiao and fights Mosley after that I think Floyd retires. I don't know about Chavez Jr at 154 like you said I see him on a crash course with Duddy it has been being thrown around for a minute now but Duddy lost since and put that on hold. I think there are other fights at 154 for Cotto Cintron maybe an al PR for the passing of the torch???......I see your point Crillz.....Lefty

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

I think the fact that Pac was 106 at one point is a dead point. Everyone that weighs more that 106 pound weighed 106 pounds at one point..that's besides the point. I think Cotto can def walk thru Foremans punches..Cotto seems to have the most problems with boxers that are faster and throw a lot of punches.

Cotto can deal with speed he can't deal with pressure fighters that throw in volume. If CLottey puts more pressure on him steps on the peddal a little bit more he gets him out of there IMO. Cotto needs to fight a style where he can come forward. I reffer back to the Crillz rule # 1 "STYLES MAKE FIGHT YOU UNDERSTAND"....Cotto does not fight well moving away. He puts hiself against the ropes and stop moving his legs and just uses his upper body movement he is open up the mddle and forgets his body attack when he is going backwards. While it makes for an interesting fight it is not the fight Cotto wants to be in....lefty

[NormanC]

Cotto can deal with speed he can't deal with pressure fighters that throw in volume. If CLottey puts more pressure on him steps on the peddal a little bit more he gets him out of there IMO. Cotto needs to fight a style where he can come forward. I reffer back to the Crillz rule # 1 "STYLES MAKE FIGHT YOU UNDERSTAND"....Cotto does not fight well moving away. He puts hiself against the ropes and stop moving his legs and just uses his upper body movement he is open up the mddle and forgets his body attack when he is going backwards. While it makes for an interesting fight it is not the fight Cotto wants to be in....lefty

Agree, Pressure was the word I was looking for when I said faster.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Agree, Pressure was the word I was looking for when I said faster.

We are on the same page my friend. You should check out the past show we did with Horus click on my link at the bottom in my sig. You might find it interesting. Maybe you would want to listen in tomorrow and next Monday give it a shot. It was a lot of fun and we talked about alot of topics that we speak of on here...With everything I said if we agree he can beat Foreman and it is being discussed for a possible bout who would he fight in his last bout if he cose not to face Chavez? Who else could be a big money fight a mega bout at 154? At 147 there are the usual suspects FMJ, SSM, Berto but at 154 who would you want to see him in there with?.....Lefty

[jrosales13]

Cotto should fight Castillo. Get his confidence back.

Chavez Jr will fight Oscar in 2010.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Cotto should fight Castillo. Get his confidence back.

Chavez Jr will fight Oscar in 2010.

Talk of OScar coming back in 2010 are starting already. OScar vs Chavez Jr at 154? or at 160? I don't know about that but anything is possible there is alot of money there in that fight. Cotto fights Castillo at 147 than what he waits for the winner of Mosely Berto or the loser of Pac vs FMj especially if it is FMJ what? I want to know who you see Cotto fighting in his last fight or his second fight in 2010 which he says is his last....Lefty

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Great post Lefty.

I just don't think a Chavez Jr. fight is possible. While Chavez has a padded record, and definitely needs to step up the competition, there really is no rush.

He still sells a ton of tickets fighting bums, and makes Arum a ton of money. Arum is not going to sacrifice Chavez Jr. a young guy with a future(albeit, not a bright one) to Cotto, a guy on the way out. It just doesn't make much business sense.

I think he needs a tune up, but not a Jenning type tune up. I'd like to see him vs. a Collazo or someone like that, than go for a title.

Or, if possible, a Hatton fight would be ideal for him. That's a big exposure, and money fight that would be a fairly easy nights work.

My exact same thoughts

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

My exact same thoughts

Whut up homie? Honestly I agree with some of th epoints said here but assuming Cotto goes to 154lbs and beats Foreman he will take a title. This would be a relatively easy fight for Cotto since I don't think Foreman has the style to give Cotto trouble even at a higher weight class. Everyone says Cotto is a big WW and now the same people are saying he is too small for 154 right? Assuming he goes to 154lbs and fights and wins against Foreman in MSG the eve of the PR parade then what/ If not Chavez give me a possible last anf final match for Cotto.....Lefty

[NormanC]

We are on the same page my friend. You should check out the past show we did with Horus click on my link at the bottom in my sig. You might find it interesting. Maybe you would want to listen in tomorrow and next Monday give it a shot. It was a lot of fun and we talked about alot of topics that we speak of on here...With everything I said if we agree he can beat Foreman and it is being discussed for a possible bout who would he fight in his last bout if he cose not to face Chavez? Who else could be a big money fight a mega bout at 154? At 147 there are the usual suspects FMJ, SSM, Berto but at 154 who would you want to see him in there with?.....Lefty

I will def check it out when I get home. I will have to do research on who I would like to see him with but I can tell you who I don't want..Martinez and P. Williams..both pressure fighter and remind me of the Margarito style of brawling...

[Heru]

You know what's crazy?

Arum has Cotto's legacy in his hands. If Arum wants to, he could make Foreman-Cotto, so Cotto could get a title. Then he could make Cotto-Chavez and have a huge event where Cotto would win and take Jr.'s 0. Those 2 wins could put enough hype to definitely make Cotto a Hall of Famer.

Or Arum could feed Castillo to him (we all know how big of a boost it gave to Hatton) and a fight against whoever the IBF titleholder will be.

Both of the scenarios are based on Cotto retiring after 2010.