Bernard Hopkins; The Executioner??

[Pugilistic™]

Thats my point...

dont call yourself "The Executioner" unless your demeanor in the ring reminds people of one...


and also... i think he is an idiot for a number of reasons. The mask just being one..

It's just a nickname anyway.

Ruslan Chagaev is called "white Tyson". Doesn't exactly fight like Tyson does he.

[Carlsson]

It's just a nickname anyway.

Ruslan Chagaev is called "white Tyson". Doesn't exactly fight like Tyson does he.

well, chagaev probably didnt pick that name himself..

not saying Hopkins did, but you dont see ruslan entering the ring with a towel over his head to "ambitionz as a ridah" do you??

you are however right that they do not resemble each other in style...

[Pugilistic™]

well, chagaev probably didnt pick that name himself..

not saying Hopkins did, but you dont see ruslan entering the ring with a towel over his head to "ambitionz as a ridah" do you??

You stated earlier that you hadn't seen any of Hopkins earlier fights in his career so your opinion on him being a "executioner" or not doesn't really count.

If you actually took the time to watch Hopkins earlier career you would find a fighter who would break down his opponents then knock them out. That sounds like a executioner to me.

[Carlsson]

You stated earlier that you hadn't seen any of Hopkins earlier fights in his career so your opinion on him being a "executioner" or not doesn't really count.

If you actually took the time to watch Hopkins earlier career you would find a fighter who would break down his opponents then knock them out. That sounds like a executioner to me.

i just might do that... Any ones in particular i should find??

one last question, just for you: Which Hopkins was better?

The "Executioner" from earlier in his career or the one that fought, say, Tarver?


Still think hes an idiot though

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He should of got docked at least two points in that fight, for his headbutting and holding. Cortez really disgraced himself as well, for allowing it.

you see a headbutt, but a real boxing fan see's a sloppy calzaghe winging punches like an amateur, rushing in wildly, missing, and getting countered very cleanly by hopkins. i would put the blame on the headbutt in that gif on calzaghe because he had no guard and was very wreckless......... i do agree that cortez is a shameful ref, but, in a fight like that, with their styles, the way the styles clash, it would be the same style clash everytime, because both guys constantly try to get their opponent to fight their fight.

now, had calzaghe landed most of his counted landed shots on actual scoring parts of the body, i would have given him the fight on my score card, but, since the majority of his shots were landing on the back of hopkins head, his back, legs, elbows, arms, his work rate doesn't mean **** if he isnt doing any damage. i saw hopkins do more damage to joe in their fight........ i had hopkins winning by two rounds.

not only did i watch the fight ringside live, i watched it dozens of times on tv/dvr and can not find a way to score the fight for joe. if you're scoring the fight on punches landing on scoring area's then i can't see how anyone can think calzaghe won.


hopkins is the Excutioner because he wrecks shop on his opponents, fights his fight, and never gets beaten up...................

[Pugilistic™]

i just might do that... Any ones in particular i should find??

one last question, just for you: Which Hopkins was better?

The "Executioner" from earlier in his career or the one that fought, say, Tarver?


Still think hes an idiot though

Hopkins - Jackson
Hopkins - Allen 2
Hopkins - Elchols 2
Hopkins - Johnson
Hopkins - Lipsey

The Hopkins early in his career was alot better physical wise but the Hopkins that fought Tarver was the smarter more experienced veteran.

The older Hopkins would of won due to his experience.

[ИATAS]

Okay then, calzaghe must be a hall of famer as well...

Last time I checked most people agree Calzaghe will be in the hall of fame...

no, nobody said so.. just think it is a ****** thing to do when not very executioner like in style.. when not even being close to the most executioner like in style...

Again, thanks for your awesome opinion. And again, hopkins fought a lot differently when he got the nickname then he did as the years went on and he evolved into a more defensive fighter. It shouldn't be that hard to figure out (not sure why you're struggling with this).

[Carlsson]

Hopkins - Jackson
Hopkins - Allen 2
Hopkins - Elchols 2
Hopkins - Johnson
Hopkins - Lipsey

The Hopkins early in his career was alot better physical wise but the Hopkins that fought Tarver was the smarter more experienced veteran.

The older Hopkins would of won due to his experience.

Thanks

now i know i said it was my last question, but another one just popped up in my head, hope youve got the time...

Just saw a live(back then) argument on youtube between Roy and Bernard, i think it is after bernard defeated Trinidad. Hopkins defenitly looking for a fight... Think it fell through due to arguments over the purse..

Who do you think would have won if such a fight had materialised in 2001??

[ИATAS]

Thanks

now i know i said it was my last question, but another one just popped up in my head, hope youve got the time...

Just saw a live(back then) argument on youtube between Roy and Bernard, i think it is after bernard defeated Trinidad. Hopkins defenitly looking for a fight... Think it fell through due to arguments over the purse..

Who do you think would have won if such a fight had materialised in 2001??

2001 hopkins would have beat a 2001 roy jones imo. Hopkins was at his absolute peak in 2001 (physically & mentally). It's a shame it didn't go down, but for whatever reasons the boxing gods don't seem to want them to ever fight again.

[THE REED]

Roy beats Bernard prime for prime.