Bernard Hopkins; The Executioner??

[Guest]

You maybe be right, i cant tell since the earliest hopkins fight i have seen was his fight with roy jones. He did nit look like an executioner there.

and neither did he against any of the fighters i mentioned earlier.. So one could say:

Yes, you are right, he was an executioner, just not against quality opposition??

He is 8-3 with 1ko in his last 11 fights.

But he's old. I give him props for still fighting.

He's winning most of the time too, just not exactly putting horrific beatdowns on anyone.

[ИATAS]

You maybe be right, i cant tell since the earliest hopkins fight i have seen was his fight with roy jones. He did nit look like an executioner there.

and neither did he against any of the fighters i mentioned earlier.. So one could say:

Yes, you are right, he was an executioner, just not against quality opposition??

[Pugilistic™]

You maybe be right, i cant tell since the earliest hopkins fight i have seen was his fight with roy jones. He did nit look like an executioner there.

and neither did he against any of the fighters i mentioned earlier.. So one could say:

Yes, you are right, he was an executioner, just not against quality opposition??

The fighters you mentioned like Tarver, Taylor, Calzaghe and Pavlik was Hopkins at 40+ years old. His fighting style had changed by then.

Hopkins executed Trinidad, Joppy, Johnson, Elchols, Mercado, Allen. All decent to good opposition.

[Guest]

The fighters you mentioned like Tarver, Taylor, Calzaghe and Pavlik was Hopkins at 40+ years old. His fighting style had changed by then.

Hopkins executed Trinidad, Joppy, Johnson, Elchols, Mercado, Allen. All decent to good opposition.

I wish he could've executed Taylor.

I lost a lot of money on those two fights.

I thought for sure the second fight he was gonna mess Taylor up.

Oh well. He's old.

[ИATAS]

The fighters you mentioned like Tarver, Taylor, Calzaghe and Pavlik was Hopkins at 40+ years old. His fighting style had changed by then.

Hopkins executed Trinidad, Joppy, Johnson, Elchols, Mercado, Allen. All decent to good opposition.

a lot of these young cats have no idea that there was a time that bernard wasn't old lol.

You are one of the few exceptions of course

[Carlsson]

The fighters you mentioned like Tarver, Taylor, Calzaghe and Pavlik was Hopkins at 40+ years old. His fighting style had changed by then.

Hopkins executed Trinidad, Joppy, Johnson, Elchols, Mercado, Allen. All decent to good opposition.

all right all right...

Hopkins is good, borderline great. Glad i opened this thread praising him..

nevertheless, (and i did watch your posted videos) i do not consider him him to be very executioner-like compared to, say, Duran, or as another poster mentioned, Foreman or Tyson.

So, the way i see it, entering the ring wearing that ****** mask, doing that ****** x thing makes him an idiot in my book.

[ИATAS]

all right all right...

Hopkins is good, borderline great.

There is no borderline about him, he's a hall of famer and an all time great, period.

nevertheless, (and i did watch your posted videos) i do not consider him him to be very executioner-like compared to, say, Duran, or as another poster mentioned, Foreman or Tyson.

No one said he's a tyson or duran.

So, the way i see it, entering the ring wearing that ****** mask, doing that ****** x thing makes him an idiot in my book.

So the true nature of the thread comes out, thanks for your awesome opinion. We will all mark this down in our personal journals and remember this forever and ever.

[Carlsson]

There is no borderline about him, he's a hall of famer and an all time great, period.



No one said he's a tyson or duran.



So the true nature of the thread comes out, thanks for your awesome opinion. We will all mark this down in our personal journals and remember this forever and ever.

Okay then, calzaghe must be a hall of famer as well...

no, nobody said so.. just think it is a ****** thing to do when not very executioner like in style.. when not even being close to the most executioner like in style...

And finally, please read my original post once more... Am i trying to hide the fact i dislike him? i start of by praising his skills, then move on to the fact that i hate that ****** maks and his public persona.

So i have to my friend, it took you a long time to find out that i did not like him. i think hes an idiot. But that was not what i wanted to discuss... My question was wheter his style really resembled that of an executioner(to which i must say you made ok arguments) and secondly, who was the REAL executioner of boxing...

[Pugilistic™]

I wish he could've executed Taylor.

I lost a lot of money on those two fights.

I thought for sure the second fight he was gonna mess Taylor up.

Oh well. He's old.

Hopkins was too old to capitalize on Taylor's bad stamina's because of his age, Had that been a few years earlier, X would of took him out.

Hopkins let me down abit in the second fight, I thought he edged it but he should of done more.

a lot of these young cats have no idea that there was a time that bernard wasn't old lol.

You are one of the few exceptions of course

I know.

Most seem to think Hopkins has always been a defensive low workrate counter puncher when that is so far from what he was in his younger days and his prime, Hopkins could do it all in his prime.

If Hopkins hadn't of changed his style, he would of been nowhere near effective as he is now in his mid 40's.

all right all right...

Hopkins is good, borderline great. Glad i opened this thread praising him..

nevertheless, (and i did watch your posted videos) i do not consider him him to be very executioner-like compared to, say, Duran, or as another poster mentioned, Foreman or Tyson.

So, the way i see it, entering the ring wearing that ****** mask, doing that ****** x thing makes him an idiot in my book.

Tyson, Foreman and Duran were pressure fighters, of course they are more executioner like than Hopkins, they went into every fight looking for the KO.

The mask was for show, it isn't a good reason to call Hopkins an idiot for.

Hopkins is great by the way.

[Carlsson]

Hopkins was too old to capitalize on Taylor's bad stamina's because of his age, Had that been a few years earlier, X would of took him out.

Hopkins let me down abit in the second fight, I thought he edged it but he should of done more.



I know.

Most seem to think Hopkins has always been a defensive low workrate counter puncher when that is so far from what he was in his younger days and his prime, Hopkins could do it all in his prime.

If Hopkins hadn't of changed his style, he would of been nowhere near effective as he is now in his mid 40's.



Tyson, Foreman and Duran were pressure fighters, of course they are more executioner like than Hopkins, they went into every fight looking for the KO.

The mask was for show, it isn't a good reason to call Hopkins an idiot for.

Hopkins is great by the way.

Thats my point...

dont call yourself "The Executioner" unless your demeanor in the ring reminds people of one...


and also... i think he is an idiot for a number of reasons. The mask just being one..