Is Marquez a ATG?

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  • Third Degree MM
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    #21
    Originally posted by Chups
    Hilarious, Yeah he's probably better but who did he fight compared to those two legends?
    arguably beat pacquiao, definitely won more rounds out of the 24, sadly we never got to see JMM vs Morales at 126 or 130, which would have been a vicious fight.

    JMM is up there with Barrera and Morales, i don't understand why any of you would doubt that.

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    • MaD RoBoT
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      #22
      Originally posted by PBFP4PBEST
      i say he is better than morales and barrera so i would say he is atg

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      • chinoy
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        #23
        Definetely NOT ATG.....but HOFer YES

        JMM DID NOT win over Pac....but lets assume he did, my next question is
        is Buster Douglas a top 100 boxer just because he KTFO Iron Mike?

        of course not....

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          #24
          Originally posted by Third Degree MM
          overrated? he beat Barrera regardless, it was close but a clear win for Marquez, you people are underrating the guy.
          Its Obvious by the time Marquez beat him, Barrera was already OLD in boxing terms. Maybe a year younger then Marquez, but older in the ring. If you know what i mean.

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          • Xcusemymood
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            #25
            HOF but Def no an ATG

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            • Third Degree MM
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              #26
              Originally posted by horge
              He's real good, but not IMO great.

              Recent wins?
              Barrera was older than fuck.
              Casa was super shot, and Diaz had
              already been exposed prior.

              Prior to that he lost to Chris John and was
              saved from another loss only because a
              judge had misunderstood the scoring rules,
              in Pac I.
              come on, the John fight was close, could have gone either way, and what apparently judges don't don't give bull**** scorings?

              Paulie
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              all got robbed, JMM vs Pac 1 and 2 were so close they could have gone either way, you people are dumb as ****.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Third Degree MM
                arguably beat pacquiao, definitely won more rounds out of the 24, sadly we never got to see JMM vs Morales at 126 or 130, which would have been a vicious fight.

                JMM is up there with Barrera and Morales, i don't understand why any of you would doubt that.
                Just because he ALMOST beat Pac doesn't mean he is up their with Morales and Barrera.

                To me it is Morales.Barrera. then Marquez and that isn't something to get mad over.

                Morales BEAT pacquiao. So Does that make Morales the Greatest of our time? no, but that is one of the wins that makes him one an ATG.

                Barrera didn't beat Pacquiao but he beat a prime Naz when Naz was getting hyped to be the greatest featherweight of all time.

                who has Marquez beat that is close to those wins or who are the HOFers that Marquez beat?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by horge
                  He's real good, but not IMO great.

                  Recent wins?
                  Barrera was older than fuck.
                  Casa was super shot, and Diaz had
                  already been exposed prior.

                  Prior to that he lost to Chris John and was
                  saved from another loss only because a
                  judge had misunderstood the scoring rules,
                  in Pac I.
                  and he lost the barrera fight that score was bs

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                  • dde91
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                    #29
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                    Originally posted by Third Degree MM
                    come on, the John fight was close, could have gone either way, and what apparently judges don't don't give bull**** scorings?

                    Paulie
                    Funeka
                    Direll
                    Martinez

                    all got robbed, JMM vs Pac 1 and 2 were so close they could have gone either way, you people are dumb as ****.
                    They were Close, but if you know what KNOCKDOWNs make 10-8 rounds, then you would know that Pac won pretty convincingly in both fights.

                    I think in the first fight i scored 7 rounds to 5 for Marquez but the Knockdown made Pacquiao win 113-112 with the KNOCKDOWNS making Pac Man win. If he would have stood on his feet, then he would have won Obviously

                    In the Second fight i scored it 6 rounds even with the KNOCKDOWN making Pac win

                    So Marquez won 13 out of 24 rounds within both fights, BUT Pacquiao Scored MORE points on my cards then Marquez. I mean it aint hard to score the fights. GOSH

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                    • dde91
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by markbnlv
                      and he lost the barrera fight that score was bs
                      Barrera shouldn't have hit him, he should have did this on Marquez head :wank:

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